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Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery but disregards “image” as Indication of Obama’s Ineligibility Dama

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posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


I know you can't provide proof of any deceit, but I can show you multiple examples of birthers lying... it's not a "agree to disagree" thing, it's a, "your side repeatedly lies" thing.

This thread, is a lie. You can, if you wanted to be honest - not holding my breathe though - watch the entire video, and show us where the OPs claim, and the tea party/birther blog he took it from, is accurate.

But you won't.

Instead you won't, as is the birther way, check any evidence; instead you'll parrot birther lies and claim there's a reason to be suspicious... without providing that reason.... as it doesn't exist.


I did I posted what I heard and wrote in down, did you miss it? and you are just insulting me, after I wrote down what was said, I was honest.

I still thought the hearing was very telling

You are taking sides as well, I am trying to be objective and feel the truth is illusive,

Do you agree it is interesting that he only produces internet copies that are not admissible as proof by either side?




posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
So is this why he only produces internet copies, one still has to wonder, because they are not admissible in court,


Why ignore the document he produced in 2008....


And it still begs the question why he doesn't produce an original,


Because the laws in every state do not allow the original document to leave the place that they are stored.... everyone has a copy of their original birth record, not the original...


lay all this to rest and produce the original,..., until Obama does people will be suspicious,


He has produced a copy, valid anywhere in the USA, but you ignore that. Why?


Obama hasn't and doesn't have to produce one, apparently, and that doesn't bother anyone?


he HAS produced one, why ignore the one he produced in 2008...



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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reply to post by Human_Alien
 

I myself have no problem with Obama being an American... he is an American actually.

my only hope is that he would start acting like one...



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Do you agree it is interesting that he only produces internet copies that are not admissible as proof by either side?


Why lie and claim that? You state you are not taking sides, then spout a birther lie.... Why ignore the one produced in 2008....



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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he is el presidente of the UN security council and president of the US at the same time
no wonder the obamanoids want to make this about a fraudulent birth certificate
to HIDE the FRAUD IN PLAIN SITE
DON"T LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN PEEP!


In Violation of the Constitution: Obama Takes On Chairmanship of UN Security Council

Some unprecedented news today, folks. Never in the history of the United Nations has a U.S. President taken the chairmanship of the powerful UN Security Council. Perhaps it is because of what could arguably be a Constitutional prohibition against doing so. To wit: Section 9 of the Constitution says:

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

www.infowars.com...

any one defending this crook is not only an accessory after the fact but also an enemy of state


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posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Do you agree it is interesting that he only produces internet copies that are not admissible as proof by either side?


Why lie and claim that? You state you are not taking sides, then spout a birther lie.... Why ignore the one produced in 2008....


Stop calling me a liar,

That is what the judge said on the video of the hearing,

Why do you guys get away with this?

Internet copies are not admissible in court.

And Obama is not required by law to produce a birth certificate at all.
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posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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I am just posting what was said in court,

Tired of being called a liar.



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


Stop lying?



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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If find it amusing that on a site where distrust is as common as botox in Pelosi's purse, a group can be so trusting of the government when it comes to a birth certificate.

9/11?
Government lies.
Roswell?
Government lies.
Area 51?
Government lies.
Chemtrails?
Government lies.

Birth certificate?
Oh my gosh! Obama is telling the truth! He'd never lie. Uh-uh! No-siree! He's telling the truth!

And I get called a "sheep".

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posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
What the.............?
Has this country gone friggin bonkers?

It's admitted as being forged but it shouldn't make a difference?
I am not political at all. Both sides SUCK. I dislike Obama has much as I did/do Bush. But I mean.....is anyone paying attention? Does no one care to challenge this? Or is this all tea-party fanfare bs?

My head is spinning!!



A recent ballot challenge hearing in New Jersey exposes a desperate strategy by Obama to distance himself from his forged certificate and induce the contrived value of his transient political popularity as the only “legitimate qualification” needed to hold the office of the presiden




Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

Hill went on to contort reasoning by implying that Obama needs only invoke his political popularity, not legal qualifications, in order to be a candidate.

www.teapartytribune.com...



Obama has even bigger problems: High Crimes & Misdemeanors .....Obama is doomed.

There is a new book coming out on Monday, April 16, 2012 -- Fast & Furious by Katie Pavlich --




It looks like Janet Napolitano lied under oath.

We need to know what see knew and when did she know it?

This will require a - special prosecutor - to investigate this perjury.

Eric Holder is just as guilty as she is regarding the Fast & Furious Scandal.
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The birth certificate is more of a distraction than a felony.
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posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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Your right but !!!! He claimed it to be his actual birth certificate. It is like if I gave a cop a fake I.D and said that it was me!



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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Stop calling in an "internet copy" then.

It's a back door way of calling it a forgery.

Like I said, go find some REAL evidence for your beliefs.



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by Danbones
he is presidend of the UN security council


No he is not, why claim that he is? Susan Rice may have something to say about that...
en.wikipedia.org...


Selection Section 30 of the United Nations Charter states that the Security Council is empowered to establish rules of procedure, "including the method of selecting its President."[1] The Security Council has established the following method of selecting the president: the presidency rotates monthly among the state members of the Security Council. The rotation takes place in alphabetical order of the member states' official United Nations names in English. [edit] Identity The Permanent Representative (ambassador) of the state that holds the presidency is usually the president of the Council, but if an official from the state who is higher in authority than the Permanent Representative (such as a foreign minister, prime minister, or head of state) is present in the Council, the higher official is the president. For example, in January 2000, a month in which the United States held the presidency of the Security Council, U.S. Vice President Al Gore headed the United States delegation to the United Nations for a few days. As a result, Gore was the President of the Security Council during this time.




In Violation of the Constitution: Obama Takes On Chairmanship of UN Security Council

Some unprecedented news today, folks. Never in the history of the United Nations has a U.S. President taken the chairmanship of the powerful UN Security Council


You seem very confused, you claimed he was President of the Security Council, but your quote says he just chaired a meeting.... so what are you on about?



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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No it's not. It's like when someone, like a bank, photocopies your BC or ID. Those photocopies aren't "fake IDs".

Don't be an idiot.



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by Human_Alien
What is SO hard about showing a damn piece of paper


he showed that in 2008




Well spoor....if they proudly showed it in 2008 then why were they compelled to offer up something else again in 2010? Don't they have better things to do than to waste time 'showing' pieces of paper if the original request has been met.
Besides, where was this supposedly shown in 2008? At the swearing in ceremony?

I mean, even if you LOVE this man and think he's the best thing since sliced bread, don't you think he owes it to his people to appease them in order to put this matter to rest?

I don't think there would be THIS much upheaval, focus, attention and frustration if any of this were legit. You don't think a Sheriff or a billionaire have better things to do than to risk their reputation by chasing something irrelevant and frivolous?

Listen, I support Ron Paul. But if there was an area of contention and the man REFUSED to set the record straight, I'd spend the same amount of time (which hasn't been THAT much) trying to figure things out and exposing what I found too. I'm an equal opportunity truth machine!

People don't like to be fooled and we certainly hate being lied to.

If he is legit and this has been a huge misunderstanding, I'll be the first on line to ask for forgiveness. So far the only thing he's (they're) doing is drawing more questionable attention to the cause.



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by xyankee
He claimed it to be his actual birth certificate


Wrong again, when did he state it was his actual birth certificate?



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:34 AM
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This is being moved to the HOAX bin?? Are they serious??? What did I miss?



posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 


Stop lying?


WOW, how can you get away with this?

I posted word for word what the judge said, I didn't make anything up,

He said an internet copy was not reliable evidence, they would have to have the original,

This is helping your side of the argument, not mine, why is it a lie?

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posted on Apr, 14 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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Tell me you're not a closet birther


This is conspiracy porn and nothing more, why not go after Obama on something legit...like signing Bills that infringe upon the Constitution...
Right, that takes thought and work.



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