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Originally posted by randomname
if you claim religion is for the week-minded, then atheism is for cowards.
it takes a strong mind and will to stand with God in this world. the complete opposite of a week mind. many, many people fail everyday at this.
but to run away and hide amongst the enemies of God so they leave you alone is the definition of week mindedness not to mention cowardness.
science proves God existence every day. just look at a strand of dna, or the laws of physics, or the universe, and say with a straight face it was all random or chaotic.
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if anything, this world proves nothing happens by itself out of the blue. and since we, humans did not create the universe, or gravity, or mass, or energy, someone did.
we call that person God. and God spoke to man in its infancy and thru out our existence, guiding us.
we call those experiences religion.
Originally posted by satron
reply to post by snowspirit
What if we get hit by a kill shot from an asteroid. Mankind's fault because they sinned?
Originally posted by Jameela
You must have read what I wrote elsewhere on this forum
The only group of humans on this earth who ever successfully lived with one another without the concept of power and wealth were Native Americans,edit on 13-4-2012 by Jameela because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by -PLB-
reply to post by jiggerj
I addressed the scenario of global catastrophe in a part of my post that you did not quote. Yes it is a possibility.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by Jameela
You must have read what I wrote elsewhere on this forum
The only group of humans on this earth who ever successfully lived with one another without the concept of power and wealth were Native Americans,edit on 13-4-2012 by Jameela because: (no reason given)
Nope, never read what you wrote elsewhere. As for the Indians I had to do a quick google, for surely, being human these numerous tribes had to have warred with one another.
Originally posted by Blue Shift
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by Jameela
You must have read what I wrote elsewhere on this forum
The only group of humans on this earth who ever successfully lived with one another without the concept of power and wealth were Native Americans,edit on 13-4-2012 by Jameela because: (no reason given)
Nope, never read what you wrote elsewhere. As for the Indians I had to do a quick google, for surely, being human these numerous tribes had to have warred with one another.
One of the reasons Europeans were able to so quickly take over the Americas is that the Native American tribes were at constant war with each other, killing and torturing each other like nobody's business. Please don't get the impression that the Native Americans were all peaceful, nature-loving hippie types. They killed with the best of them. It's just that they never advanced technologically enough to progress beyond spears and arrows. If they had, they would have been slaughtering each other with even more gusto.
In terms of sheer numbers of deaths religion and science are at the very least equal, if not science winning for numbers of persons killed because of it.
Originally posted by Deaf Alien
Science is just a neutral thing. The paradoxical thing is with some people believing so hard in religion using science to further their beliefs or ideologies even though it's the very thing that they are so against.
Originally posted by Annee
Seems to me - - the Atheist Scientist is relatively new.
Originally posted by -PLB-
Originally posted by Annee
Seems to me - - the Atheist Scientist is relatively new.
I doubt this. There just isn't much of a historical record as it used to be unhealthy to pronounce that you're an atheist, or even to show doubt in certain established aspects of religion. A wise scientist would pretend to believe.