Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
1- USA funding and supporting Iran's nuclear energy development before 1979. The subject is fact, I'm interested in your opinion.
2- USA funding Iraq and Saddam Husseiin to try and remove the post revolution regime- a war that lasted from 1980 to 1988.
Both the above happened, would really be interested in your opinions on this.
Yes, both the above happened and both of them were considered and thought out for extreme diplomatic purposes. They were plans that backfired greatly for the US and it is a shame that every diplomatic mission cannot be completely as promised or wanted. It's not how life works! Iran and North Korea are NOT doing anything diplomatic by illegally producing Nuclear Weapons when they are told time and time again to stop by the UN! They are nearly war criminals just for this act. And if not for this act, than the communist and religious regimes that starve their people and invest all their money towards these programs are.
SO can you forgive the US for at least trying to figure out ways to solve the issues, even if they backfire greatly?? I don't see Iran or North Korea doing anything about human rights in their own countries, or trying to maintain peace...edit on 15-4-2012 by jjf3rd77 because: (no reason given)
Regarding point 1 then, do you at least see the possibility that Iran may actually need nuclear energy to surive? They will run out of oil in the next 70 years or so, they are closed off from the world, they are one of the biggest consumers of oil in the world, they are wasting their best resource for domestic use when they could conserve it better with nuclear energy. This was the American view before the 1979 revolution. Surely you can see this?
You talk about human rights, yet China has worse human rights than Iran, in fact even the 'mainstream' human rights groups say this- so should we invade China too on humanitarian grounds? I'm not saying people don't deeserve human rights, I am just challenging your view that we should intervene on humanitarian grounds yet the worse abuser of human rights is China. What do you make of that?