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posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 02:35 AM
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Guns N' Roses frontman rejects Hall of Fame


www.smh.com.au

Axl Rose, the mercurial frontman for rockers Guns N' Roses, has declined his induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this week saying he does not feel wanted or respected at the ceremony.

"I won't be attending The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction 2012 Ceremony and I respectfully decline my induction as a member of Guns N' Roses to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame."

"no offense meant to anyone but the Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony doesn't appear to be somewhere I'm actually wanted"
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posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 02:35 AM
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Axl Rose has met with members of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame council and he has stated that he feels that he isn't wanted or respected by them. It was surprising to see that he was excited when it was all first anounced. I am saddened of the fact that Axl won't be attending. Tomorrow will be a sad day in music history.

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posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 02:44 AM
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Sad indeed. A strange move considering the legacy the band has left and the millions of fans they have around the world. I doubt he is missing it for the reasons he states - I wonder what the real reason is?

I can't help but feel that Axl has an Appetite For Destruction!



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 02:47 AM
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I read this earlier.As a huge GNR fan it's disappointing but NOT surprising.Axl is an idiot sometimes.For some reason he feels the need to defend this new "gnr".They do not compare to the original line up and they never will.Don't get me wrong I saw them back in October in Orlando and they put on a hell of a show.

ETA : I think it's got to do with all the reunion crap that has plaqued them for years.From what I've read Slash,Duff,Steve and Matt will be there.Izzy and Axl are the only ones who refuse to go.
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posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 02:47 AM
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Axl is invited..but not KISS..come on...someone is holding a grudge.

Peace



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 02:59 AM
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That article only gives half the story.Here's what his full statement said,as per their official site :

To: The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, Guns N' Roses Fans and Whom It May Concern,

When the nominations for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame were first announced I had mixed emotions but, in an effort to be positive, wanting to make the most of things for the fans and with their enthusiasm, I was honored, excited and hoped that somehow this would be a good thing. Of course I realized as things stood, if Guns N' Roses were to be inducted it'd be somewhat of a complicated or awkward situation.



Since then we've listened to fans, talked with members of the board of the Hall Of Fame, communicated with and read various public comments and jabs from former members of Guns N' Roses, had discussions with the president of the Hall Of Fame, read various press (some legit, some contrived) and read other artists' comments weighing in publicly on Guns and the Hall with their thoughts.



Under the circumstances I feel we've been polite, courteous, and open to an amicable solution in our efforts to work something out. Taking into consideration the history of Guns N' Roses, those who plan to attend along with those the Hall for reasons of their own, have chosen to include in "our" induction (that for the record are decisions I don't agree with, support or feel the Hall has any right to make), and how (albeit no easy task) those involved with the Hall have handled things... no offense meant to anyone but the Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony doesn't appear to be somewhere I'm actually wanted or respected.

For the record, I would not begrudge anyone from Guns their accomplishments or recognition for such. Neither I or anyone in my camp has made any requests or demands of the Hall Of Fame. It's their show not mine.



That said, I won't be attending The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction 2012 Ceremony and I respectfully decline my induction as a member of Guns N' Roses to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.



I strongly request that I not be inducted in absentia and please know that no one is authorized nor may anyone be permitted to accept any induction for me or speak on my behalf. Neither former members, label representatives nor the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame should imply whether directly, indirectly or by omission that I am included in any purported induction of "Guns N' Roses".



This decision is personal. This letter is to help clarify things from my and my camp's perspective. Neither is meant to offend, attack or condemn. Though unfortunately I'm sure there will be those who take offense (God knows how long I'll have to contend with the fallout), I certainly don't intend to disappoint anyone, especially the fans, with this decision. Since the announcement of the nomination we've actively sought out a solution to what, with all things considered, appears to be a no win, at least for me, "damned if I do, damned if I don't" scenario all the way around.



In regard to a reunion of any kind of either the Appetite or Illusion lineups, I've publicly made myself more than clear. Nothing's changed.



The only reason, at this point, under the circumstances, in my opinion whether under the guise of "for the fans" or whatever justification of the moment, for anyone to continue to ask, suggest or demand a reunion are misguided attempts to distract from our efforts with our current lineup of myself, Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson, Frank Ferrer, Richard Fortus, Chris Pitman, Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal and DJ Ashba.

Izzy came out with us a few times back in '06 and I invited him to join us at our LA Forum show last year. Steven was at our show at the Hard Rock, later in '06 in Las Vegas, where I invited him to our after-party and was rewarded with his subsequent interviews filled with reunion lies. Lesson learned. Duff joined us in 2010 and again in '11 along with his band, Loaded, opening in Seattle and Vancouver. For me, with the exception of Izzy or Duff joining us on stage if they were so inclined somewhere in the future for a song or two, that's enough.



There's a seemingly endless amount of revisionism and fantasies out there for the sake of self-promotion and business opportunities masking the actual realities. Until every single one of those generating from or originating with the earlier lineups has been brought out in the light, there isn't room to consider a conversation let alone a reunion.



Maybe if it were you it'd be different. Maybe you'd do it for this reason or that. Peace, whatever. I love our band now. We're there for each other when the going get's rough. We love our fans and work to give them every ounce of energy and heart we can.



So let sleeping dogs lie or lying dogs sleep or whatever. Time to move on. People get divorced. Life doesn't owe you your own personal happy ending especially at another's, or in this case several others', expense.

But hey if ya gotta then maybe we can get the "no show, grandstanding, publicity stunt, disrespectful, he doesn't care about the fans" crap out of the way as quickly as we can and let's move on. No one's taking the ball and going home. Don't get it twisted. For more than a decade and a half we've endured the double standards, the greed of this industry and the ever present seemingly limitless supply of wannabes and unscrupulous, irresponsible media types. Not to imply anything in this particular circumstance, but from my perspective in regard to both the Hall and a reunion, the ball's never been in our court.

In closing, regardless of this decision and as hard to believe or as ironic as it may seem, I'd like to sincerely thank the board for their nomination and their votes for Guns' induction. More importantly I'd like to thank the fans for being there over the years, making any success we've had possible and for enjoying and supporting Guns N' Roses music.



I wish the Hall a great show, congratulations to all the other artists being inducted and to our fans we look forward to seeing you on tour!!



Sincerely,

Axl Rose

www.facebook.com...

Also this gunsnroses.com...
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posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 03:10 AM
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Thanks for that mate.

I can see where he is coming from, but i still think he's being an arsehole about it.



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 03:15 AM
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Why did GnR get nominated anyways?

They had 1 good album.

Where as Rakim, the man that elevated hip hops rhyming skills to the next level, a true God MC, gets turned away?


If there was no Rakim, we would still be saying " a hip hop, boogie to the bang bang boogie, up jump the boogie"



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 03:20 AM
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GN'R - One good album? Get real

All of their albums have been great. Heck, even Chinese Democracy was great, and underrated.



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 03:23 AM
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Good for him! I just gained a whole lot of new found respect for Axl. It is nice to see someone stick up for what they believe in, and not just 'go with the flow'. I was never a huge GnR fan, but I have always thought they were very talented, and enjoyed their music. When Appetite came out, it was like a breath of fresh air, but after that (except for maybe Lies) they seemed to have sort of 'sold out', and their music was way to overproduced, in my humble opinion. I think I'll go check out some of Axl's new offerings, as it seems he is actually true to himself, and his current line-up, regardless of the negative press. Thanks for posting this (I never knew I could get my entertainment news from ATS too! What a bonus! hehe)



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 03:36 AM
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Originally posted by Frankenchrist
Why did GnR get nominated anyways?

They had 1 good album.

Where as Rakim, the man that elevated hip hops rhyming skills to the next level, a true God MC, gets turned away?


If there was no Rakim, we would still be saying " a hip hop, boogie to the bang bang boogie, up jump the boogie"




First of all, hip hop isn't music and second of all, GnR has far more than one good album.



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 03:38 AM
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Originally posted by Frankenchrist
Why did GnR get nominated anyways?

They had 1 good album.

Where as Rakim, the man that elevated hip hops rhyming skills to the next level, a true God MC, gets turned away?


If there was no Rakim, we would still be saying " a hip hop, boogie to the bang bang boogie, up jump the boogie"




Seriously?One good album?They had 4 good albums and 1 GREAT album.Hip hop is not rock and roll and it shouldn't even be considered for the ROCK N ROLL hall of fame.



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 03:40 AM
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Originally posted by bl4ke360

Originally posted by Frankenchrist
Why did GnR get nominated anyways?

They had 1 good album.

Where as Rakim, the man that elevated hip hops rhyming skills to the next level, a true God MC, gets turned away?


If there was no Rakim, we would still be saying " a hip hop, boogie to the bang bang boogie, up jump the boogie"




First of all, hip hop isn't music and second of all, GnR has far more than one good album.


Ok , can you tell me why it isn't music? You can dance to it.

I never heard a GnR song in the club personally.

Hip hop just isn't your thing.



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 03:40 AM
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OP

Thank you for bringing this up. Guns n Roses is easily the most influential band in my coming of age years. Myself and my camping buddies competed in a talent contest in the summer of 1989 when I was 12, and we went campsite to campsite making requests for help in costume stuff.

I had won Student Council that year in 6th grade, with my friend Maurice's help, who was a bully cousin of my backyard neighbor. He made GNR themed posters for me to help get me elected, we fought and stuff, but no actual hate...

At my Campground on Summer Break...Any who, my friend shawn and I, not to be confused with Maurice..In my Summer break from 6th to 7th grade...Shawn and I had this mini boombox and a casette of Appetite for destruction, We performed Sweet Child O Mine, to lipsync. We had ripped jean this, and Jean Jacket that, and I was Slash with Blue Clown Wig Hair, and Shawny Had a Bandnana on and was doing it like Axl, and we did the whole number in front of a crowd used to New Hampshire soft country hits... I grew up summer to summer there, so didn't Shawny. Was there since 5, Him too, but he was 11 to my 12. We won that talent contest, and it was the best memory of my life at that time. Hell Yeah GnR, win your Spot into the Hall of Fame.

Axl Rose, I have no Idea what your Bleeping problem is, but suck up your Ego. I've been screwed by showbiz too. When you go "Hall of Fame" Phuck your ART, you are the Statue of Liberty!!!"

(I respect your art, but Hall of Fame trumps Art, you have forever in the halls of history, like Vikings, and the Beatles in one Awesome Sandwich!!!!)

I just wanted to share how powerful this is to me, and what a winey unforgiving talented tool Axl might be. If he was broke nows his time to smile and cash in and retire. just sayin...



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 03:46 AM
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Originally posted by nightstalker78

Originally posted by Frankenchrist
Why did GnR get nominated anyways?

They had 1 good album.

Where as Rakim, the man that elevated hip hops rhyming skills to the next level, a true God MC, gets turned away?


If there was no Rakim, we would still be saying " a hip hop, boogie to the bang bang boogie, up jump the boogie"




Seriously?One good album?They had 4 good albums and 1 GREAT album.Hip hop is not rock and roll and it shouldn't even be considered for the ROCK N ROLL hall of fame.


Oh by the way.

Beastie Boys are in too.



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by Frankenchrist

Originally posted by nightstalker78

Originally posted by Frankenchrist
Why did GnR get nominated anyways?

They had 1 good album.

Where as Rakim, the man that elevated hip hops rhyming skills to the next level, a true God MC, gets turned away?


If there was no Rakim, we would still be saying " a hip hop, boogie to the bang bang boogie, up jump the boogie"




Seriously?One good album?They had 4 good albums and 1 GREAT album.Hip hop is not rock and roll and it shouldn't even be considered for the ROCK N ROLL hall of fame.


Oh by the way.

Beastie Boys are in too.


# Yeah!

RCHP are in also!
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posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 03:53 AM
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Originally posted by Frankenchrist

Originally posted by nightstalker78

Originally posted by Frankenchrist
Why did GnR get nominated anyways?

They had 1 good album.

Where as Rakim, the man that elevated hip hops rhyming skills to the next level, a true God MC, gets turned away?


If there was no Rakim, we would still be saying " a hip hop, boogie to the bang bang boogie, up jump the boogie"





Seriously?One good album?They had 4 good albums and 1 GREAT album.Hip hop is not rock and roll and it shouldn't even be considered for the ROCK N ROLL hall of fame.


Oh by the way.

Beastie Boys are in too.


Yeah and they shouldn't be.They're not good at all.They had a few catchy songs but that's it.



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 03:55 AM
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Originally posted by Frankenchrist

Originally posted by bl4ke360

Originally posted by Frankenchrist
Why did GnR get nominated anyways?

They had 1 good album.

Where as Rakim, the man that elevated hip hops rhyming skills to the next level, a true God MC, gets turned away?


If there was no Rakim, we would still be saying " a hip hop, boogie to the bang bang boogie, up jump the boogie"




First of all, hip hop isn't music and second of all, GnR has far more than one good album.


Ok , can you tell me why it isn't music? You can dance to it.

I never heard a GnR song in the club personally.

Hip hop just isn't your thing.




It isn't music because it's all generic.It all sounds the same.Rhyme a few words to a generic beat and you've got hip hop.You've never heard GNR in a club because it's not meant to be played in a club.



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 03:59 AM
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Hip Hop and Rap have no place at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. They are not Rock and Roll.



posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by nightstalker78

Originally posted by Frankenchrist

Originally posted by nightstalker78

Originally posted by Frankenchrist
Why did GnR get nominated anyways?

They had 1 good album.

Where as Rakim, the man that elevated hip hops rhyming skills to the next level, a true God MC, gets turned away?


If there was no Rakim, we would still be saying " a hip hop, boogie to the bang bang boogie, up jump the boogie"





Seriously?One good album?They had 4 good albums and 1 GREAT album.Hip hop is not rock and roll and it shouldn't even be considered for the ROCK N ROLL hall of fame.


Oh by the way.

Beastie Boys are in too.


Yeah and they shouldn't be.They're not good at all.They had a few catchy songs but that's it.


Not only that. They planted the seeds for gangster rap. Just ask Dr Dre and Ice Cube.

They also invented rap rock. A whole now genre of music altogether.

They are not only superior MCs. They are also a hardcore punk band.

On top of that they have released a few instrumental albums too.


And you said GnR had 3 good albums?





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