Originally posted by thehoneycombI think that the USA once was the greatest nation on earth. Today we are still better but also disadvantaged in a lot of ways.
I will not bother answering the 5 though as it seems like the same question over again with different words.
Originally posted by Ex_CT2
Those questions are too hard. Can I choose another category?
Originally posted by thehoneycombWell respectfully I will leave then, honestly I find your questions confusing so it's hard for me to answer them at this time.
However to answer your following question there are two things, one in the Constitution the other being the true nature of free market capitalism itself, Which has been deluded over time. The thing in the constitution is the right to bear arms. Thats what sets us apart. The freedom of speech thing is good too, but also more common in any country.
Article 10 of Mexican Constitution of 1917 states the following:
"Article 10. The inhabitants of the United Mexican States have the right to possess arms within their domicile, for their safety and legitimate defense, except those forbidden by Federal Law and those reserved for the exclusive use of the Army, Militia, Air Force and National Guard. Federal law shall provide in what cases, conditions, under what requirements and in which places inhabitants shall be authorized to bear arms."
The right to have a militia to defend the constitution from enemies foreign and domestic also ensures that if the 2nd amendment is stripped away, all bets are off.
Do I think we should spread America across the world? Well sure, but people have to learn to accept it themselves we can not force it upon anybody to accept. With the proper education we can.
Also we are not in the same state as a nation that we were 200 years ago so if we started spreading America it might be some twisted form of socialism if you get my gest.
We have to get our own house back in order. By appearances though it seems we are losing that war, so the only way to proceed is to lead by example.
Also the FED should have never been created and sent this country on a slow but steady collision course. So we have to fix that along with shredding the thousands of laws and stacks of paper that no one really understands other then those who made them into laws with the purpose to confuse, kinda like your OP
Originally posted by EyesWideShut
Those are loaded questions like "How many times have you had syphilis?"
IMHO, a Patriot is someone who questions his government and would fight against tyranny and for the best interest of his/her country and countryman. Not fight for the Government in wars that aren't in actual defense of the country or being blindly nationalist.
"Foreign and domestic"
Originally posted by JBRiddleThe road to creating and drafting the United States Constitution is a long one. The Founding Fathers of our republic were influenced by the Magna Carta, and by almost most two centuries of colonial self governance, and were also influenced by the events around them. The US Constitution is a living breathing document, and by that I mean it has the ability to be amended if and as need. But the Constitution was also to limit the power of the Federal government and protect the states and the people. The founders realized that a legislature could easily trample the right of men as easily as a King could. So safe guards such as the Bill of Right and the 10th Amendment were added. The Constitution my not be perfect but if adheared to it can deal with any problem that come along. And think about this, If you tried to write a document like the US Constitution today, it would never happen. With special interests, and political ideological differences you could achieve a document of the same caliber. Plus the constitution took 10 years to get 13 states to ratify, with 50 states you never get it done. What was achieved we may not see the likes of for another millennium.
Sadly I must say yes to this. If you look at American History you will see sadly many such events. Like during the Settling of the West, we pushed the Native American Tribes off there land and broke treaty after treaty. And through foreign policy we have done military interventions to protect American interests abroad. For creating Panama by declaring a drunk in a pub somewhere in Panama the head of the Panamian resistance movement, and then "liberating" Panama from Columbia to build a canal. To our interventionism to in Vietnam to "contain" Communism. As a wise man said, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".
But ever nation at some point in its history is guilty of the same thing, be it Rome, the Persian Empire, the Muslim Caliphate, Japan and Germany during World War II, the Rise of the Soviet Union. History is littered with atrocities. Form what I have learned form Human history when two opposing culture collide one of three things will occur. One Civilization will wipe out the other, both Civilizations will merge, or the will remain separate. Yes we have made many mistakes in our history, what matters is we learn from them and try NOT to repeat them.
I do, because during the World War II the United States keep the European Allies and the Communist Russians in the fight. Had America not entered the WWII, England would have fallen to do lack of supply and the Soviet Union would have fallen soon after. It was American Soldiers made up the bulk of the forces that defeated the Axis Powers, everyone else would have been screw with out american troops and supplies.
Also After WWII we rebuild Europe and Japan,plus we didn't keep what we conquered we gave it all back (eventually). Name another nation in history that has done that.
No. Nation building is a stupid Idea. Why make competition for yourself. The way you make other nations great is having them become part of your nation.
Patriotism is a thing that can get nations in to trouble. Some people think being Patriotic means going along with what ever the government says, and supporting everything the governments does and never asking questions. For example during WWII the People of Japan did what they were told and didn't consider the repercussion of there blind patriotism. There is nothing wrong with supporting you nation during a time of war but always question your leaders and make sure there doing whats in the nations best interest. So may call this being unpatriotic. I call it being responsible.
i am not asking you to leave, so i apologize if you felt i was. i was simply stating that i am not looking for people to assert their patriotic position here as i think most of us already understand it. i want to address some root issues that are critical to a patriotic political position.
i guess a good place to start would have been to ask people to define patriotism.
my next question to you is, why is it that the second amendment is more important than all others in your opinion? while this doesn't exactly directly regard the second amendment, i understand this argument...
...however, 1. as the person in the link i posted above pointed out, other countries have similar rights, and 2. even with the second amendment the U.S. government has limited our right to bear arms over time.
so i take it you oppose our "nation building" efforts overseas?
as a self-described socialist i want to clarify that, just as the concept of a free market economy has been horribly distorted in the U.S., to the point that we are very far from such, although we still use the term, the same has happened to the term "socialism". just to show you how distorted the term has become, i am a free market socialist. in many socialist circles that term actually makes sense lol.
how do we lead by example, though, when we can't get our house in order first?
Originally posted by eboyd
1. This question addresses the comment that is the impetus for this thread. i do not recall the thread, but i recall someone commenting that the U.S. has the best constitution in the entire world.
my question is, if you believe that your country has the best constitution in the world, how do you justify this belief? have you read every other constitution that has ever existed? how do you measure the "greatness" of a constitution? by its effect on the group of people it is used to guide? by the actual words themselves? is it a mixture of each?
2. do you believe that official government bodies have committed or called for atrocities in various parts of the world (possibly even including their own countries) that could be considered "terrorism"? if so, do you believe that, while it has happened in countries other than your own, it has never happened in your country, nor has it happened at the hands of your government, nor will it ever? to all of these questions, why or why not?
3. this question is similar to the first. do you believe that your country is the absolute best country in the world? if so, what is this assertion based on? have you been to/lived in every other country at some point in your life? do you have family/friends everywhere else, or at least almost everywhere else in the world? what sources of information do you base this assertion off of? what rubric do you base this assertion off of (ie: specific economic indicators, crime rates, laws, etc.)? do you believe it is possible for another nation to be superior to yours at the present time, or that one may potentially be greater in the future, or that there are certain aspects in which other countries may be superior? and most importantly, is it so direly important to be "the best" nation in the world? why or why not?
4. if it is so important that a nation be the best in the world, do you believe it is also important to build other nations to be as great as your nation? if you believe it is, would this not contradict the necessity to be the greatest nation in the world? if not, why not?
5. how would you define patriotism in your terms? do you feel these questions misrepresent your position? what are some questions you feel should be asked of other patriots, as well as of those who do not consider themselves patriots?
The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country