Did Humans And Dinosaurs Co-exist? (Icca Stones), page 3


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reply posted on 11-4-2012 @ 07:33 PM by boncho
Originally posted by muzzleflash
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post by kn0wh0w



There are probably actually rhino carvings at that temple but this isn't one of them. I can't find a site with photos of all of the carvings though, apparently there is a ton of them all over.

Also notice how the "plates on the back" of the animal in question are shaped just like the peculiar shape that we find on the stegosaurus fossils? In the same order and fashion and everything. It's a perfect match.

Plus, get this :
Both the American and Asian sites reveal stegosaurus had it's "tail spikes" on it's head, not it's tail.
I find that the most surprising of all, and compelling. It really sets this mystery on fire.
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After looking at a stegosaurus complete fossil, and looking at the carving again I really see a minimal resemblance. The only thing are the "plates" above it but I'm not even sure if that is supposed to be part of the animal or if it is artistic interpretation of something around it, as in the water buffalo picture.




Notice the head, the direction of the next in the above picture. Also the stubby legs in the front.

Even this looks closer.

But I'm not sure either way. I wouldn't want to give a definitive answer on the Cambodian carving besides the fact that I haven't found much information.

Another question comes up tho, if they were carving all these different animals at the temple, why did we end up with just one dinosaur. There are multiple, multiple species of dinosaurs and different animals that were around during their existence. But we get a Stegosaurus, a swan and a water buffalo?




reply posted on 11-4-2012 @ 10:27 PM by rickymouse
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I think it's interesting how strange looking the Humanoids are and their size compared to the dinosaurs. Are these weird creatures the Giants of old? Are they the builders of the pyramids, working along with man?.



reply posted on 12-4-2012 @ 03:24 AM by john_bmth
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You'd think if there were Stegosauruses walking around there'd be considerably more depictions (and detailed ones at that) than one stone carving



reply posted on 12-4-2012 @ 03:49 AM by Panic2k11
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Dinosaurs did not die simply from the collision of the asteroid. There was a lot of changes. The climate, the oxygen ration in the atmosphere, flowers became common also it is certain that not all dinosaurs died but some survived that is why we have birds, crocodiles, lizards and turtles...

Being big has costs . There are even animals alive today that predate the dinosaurs the Coelacanth, the Nautilus and probably a very large number of insects...

Note that even before man there was a time that mega-fauna would have predated any surviving population large reptiles...
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reply posted on 12-4-2012 @ 04:22 AM by boncho
Originally posted by john_bmth
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post by boncho



You'd think if there were Stegosauruses walking around there'd be considerably more depictions (and detailed ones at that) than one stone carving


Well that's because there was only ever one Stegosaurus. His name was Wally.




reply posted on 12-4-2012 @ 12:25 PM by rickymouse
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You see the knife that the men are holding in the stabbing position in those pics? Maybe Dino meat was really good tasting to those giant humanoids. I'm distantly related to Big Louie. Can you tell?
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reply posted on 12-4-2012 @ 02:13 PM by Blarneystoner
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Originally posted by Blarneystoner

Do you seriously believe that there is a concerted, organized effort by all Historical Geologists and Archeologists to fabricate a hoax that dinosaurs died off 65 million years ago? Because that's exactly what you're suggesting. If what you say is correct then it would mean that every single Archeologist in the world would have to be in on the BIG secret.


That's the thing, I DON'T BELIEVE anyone.
I want to find out the truth of reality.

But hey, you are entitled to believe in your fantasy of pretending to know what happened 60 million years ago because some people told you it must be true.

However due to the preponderance of controversy and contradictory information, truth seekers such as myself are forced to admit that it is unresolved and that the exact truth eludes us currently.

Anything is possible, the only hard part is determining which possibility actually happened.
I try very hard to make sure I don't start believing in dogmatic doctrines whether they wear the guise of a religion or a scientist.

Don't rush into the fray in an impetuous mistake, temper your zeal. Hold the line, remain steadfast and wait for the pieces to fall in their place but be ready for whatever random eventuality may arise.


Oh Please... you're accusing me of rushing into the fray? That's too damn funny. Some stones were found with pictures of dinosaurs on them... certainly this means that all of those archeologists are shysters. Damn that's too effin funny.

It's not a fantasy... but while we're on the subject. You seem more than overly zealous to allow a few stones with pictures etched into them to over turn literally thousands of Archeologists and hundreds of years of research.

I'm done with you and this ridiculous thread... you don't have the sense God gave a horse... and that ain't much.
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reply posted on 12-4-2012 @ 02:34 PM by Barcs
Originally posted by kn0wh0w
As i see it, we're left with 3 possibilities:
1. a human civilization existed during the age of the dinosaurs
2. dinosaurs survived to coexist with man
3. the stones are an elaborate hoax.


What about the possibility that they had knowledge about the dinosaurs based on their own discovery of fossils, or another civilization's knowledge of them passed down from their discoveries? We certainly aren't the first intelligent sentient culture to walk the earth. But do you really think that after seeing a skeleton of a stegosaurus, it would be hard to imagine what the creature might look like? You aren't giving people enough credit. If we can make depictions on what they look like today, the same could have easily happened prior to that. Surely cutting away all of the granite in Egypt to make pyramids and cutting out deep stone caves in South America, one of these cultures had to have found fossils.

The way I see it, humans could not possibly have existed any where near 65,000,000 BC. Everything we know about biology and geology counters that notion. Not once, EVER has a dinosaur been found in the same fossil layer as a hominid or vice versa. If they actually walked the earth together and coexisted with humans riding them, etc, we'd expect to find those, but not a single one has been found. It may be possible a few species of dinosaur survived over the years, but if so they've been extremely rare and live hidden off from the rest of the world and human society. It's a possibility, but so far there's no evidence. Huge creatures leave huge evidence. Are we supposed to believe everything that's ever carved into a stone as real absolute truth? If so, then tons of hybrid creatures roamed the earth during ancient Egypt. I just don't see any justification in believing this, even if the stones were authentic from 2000+ years ago.
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reply posted on 12-4-2012 @ 03:07 PM by muzzleflash
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Sorry I just realized where our misunderstanding came from. Yes I was talking about the Acambaro finds in that post a page back somewhere.

It seems that since the OP linked to some montage of mixed pics from different finds (along with the Peru stones).

In relation to the Peru stones I don't know much other than the claim of a varnish and I haven't seen if they separated the fakes from the real ones yet.

But the Acambaro find, the Cambodian temple etchings, and the human over dino footprint in the riverbed appear to be pretty legit as far as I can tell. I have actually been to the river where the footprints were found, and there is a state historical marker there talking about it near the site.

Even without the Icca stones we have many examples to examine. On Google apparently there are all sorts of cave drawings and such that are interpreted along these lines.

Plus the interesting correlation between worldwide legends of "dragons" and "dinosaurs". Before the word "dinosaur" came into existence 150years ago, "dragon" was far more commonplace as the word of choice. And it actually would explain where the legends originated from as well.

The problem here between the two possible hypothesis of dinosaur history, is that both of them appear to be reasonable explanations. The 'recent dino extinction hypothesis' is very attractive because it matches up with many aspects of history very well and there are various minute details that really make you step back and think twice about everything you thought you knew.



reply posted on 12-4-2012 @ 03:22 PM by john_bmth
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Why is it that the only source of that paragraph is creationist sites?
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reply posted on 12-4-2012 @ 03:50 PM by Telos
Originally posted by boncho
reply to
post by muzzleflash

Oh I conclude it's a hoax but it needs more research to put it to rest?
Why would we bother researching it anymore if it's so obviously a hoax?

It's a contradiction. Either it requires more investigation to fully verify either possibility, or it's concluded. You cannot conclude the investigation yet allude to a need for further investigation.




By the evidence provided. The dig site was hidden, having access to it would provide evidence that should be conclusive to all parties interested. However, by not disclosing the information, the Dr. only added weight to argument of a hoax.


And who would go to such trouble, making over 15.000 stones depicting humans and dinosaurs to produce an hoax? Why this gigantic number of stones when the hoax could have been as good as with just a few of them? And how could a simple villager with no craftsmen skills have make all those stones in such a short time?


reply posted on 12-4-2012 @ 03:56 PM by muzzleflash
Originally posted by john_bmth
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post by muzzleflash



Why is it that the only source of that paragraph is creationist sites?
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Which one? The Marco Polo story?
I don't know, I'll take some time to look around and see what I find.

But yes I agree, I find it rather difficult to wade through things when the only folks who want to talk about these subjects are mostly religious oriented and deeply invested into a evolution vs creationism debate (which I find distracting and irrelevant).

I just want to know for sure if dinos lived in the last couple of thousand of years, or if things like Nessie and Mokele Mbembe are real. I love subjects like this they are so challenging.

I just wish more people would look into the topic with an open mind so we could get some non-creationists to actually talk about this and take it seriously for a minute. That's all I want, people to entertain the notion for just a few minutes and see where it leads them.


reply posted on 12-4-2012 @ 04:31 PM by Barcs
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Well, since we're pondering, there is another alternative. If there indeed was another advanced culture in the past, was genetic experimentation and cloning out of the picture? Maybe a jurassic park scenario isn't unrealistic at all.
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