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Originally posted by WingedBull
Martin died less than a 1/10th of a mile from his home. If he did run, he could have made it home in those two minutes between the time Zimmerman says he is running and the end of the 911 tape. This would indicate he had no interest in losing his pursuer.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
And you know this how? You were there?
You know for a fact he didn't confront Zimmerman for following him?
Originally posted by shepseskaf
LMFAO!! Liquid stitches?
Originally posted by shepseskaf
matches the the concoction of lies he made up that night?
Originally posted by shepseskaf
If the places were reversed and Trayvon had sauntered into a police station with no visible injuries
Originally posted by shepseskaf
after a "life and death battle" merely 35 minutes prior, the people now defending GZ would be screaming at the top of their lungs that lies were being told.
Originally posted by shepseskaf
Its perfectly obvious that GZ's account of what happened is not true. The lead detective on the case didn't believe him, and neither do a lot of rational-thinking persons -- of all races.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
As I stated to Libertygal, we don't know what was even going through Trayvons head at the time. The fact his route didn't meet your standards of logic does not add much to whether he ever confronted Zimmerman himself.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
And you know this how? You were there?
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
This is all from Zimmerman himself.
Zimmerman was lawfully in possession of his gun and had the permits required by law in order to carry and conceal it.
Originally posted by WingedBull
If Zimmerman was not looking for Martin why was he there?
But then he states he wants the police to call him so he can tell them his location...
Unfamiliar neighborhood, at night. Or he turned back and confronted Zimmerman. Or Zimmerman caught up to him. Could be a dozen different reasons.
[That is what Zimmerman claims, but you have no way of knowing that, or stating it as an absolute.
Originally posted by Cosmic911
reply to post by Xcathdra
Zimmerman was lawfully in possession of his gun and had the permits required by law in order to carry and conceal it.
Hey X!
I do believe he was in violation of his Neighborhood Watch P&P by carrying a weapon, however, be it gun or knife, or whatever.
Originally posted by WingedBull
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
I don't need to.
I forgot.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
As another member pointed out, in pursuit and following are two different things.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Interesting you are accepting some of the 911 tape as fact, and other parts you are rejecting as Zimmerman lying.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Chase would indicate he was running after Martin, not merely following him.
Never said it was.
You are making a claim. Back it up.
Originally posted by WingedBull
Oh, so it's a racial issue. If you think there shouldn't be a rush to judgment, if you don't think facts should be substituted for emotion and speculation, then you are a racist. Got it. Yup, that's rational-thinking.
Originally posted by yuppa
Originally posted by GmoS719
I'm glad to hear this.
Let's hope he is charged and sentenced to the maximum.
God rest that poor child's soul.
You should never be glad of others misfortune no matter what you think of them. The case will hinge on th ewitnesses being played against each other. One says travon was on top the other says zimmerman. They want to avoid riots and the UN is putting pressure on the prosecutors office to charge him at least with reckless discharge of a fire arm i would assume.
Yes, Zimmerman made claims that Trayvon was running in a certain direction. Whether Trayvon's body was found back from that direction where Zimmerman could account is irrelevant, there is no evidence out there pointing to whether Trayvon confronted Zimmerman himself, aside from Zimmerman's words.
How could it be a fallacy? Zimmerman was certainly prepared to confront by persuing Trayvon initially, maybe Zimmerman saw Trayvon and continued to persue him? What made you assume this scenario was out of the question? Considering you claim it was a 'fallacy' for him to persue him any longer?
Yes, you're assuming he stopped chasing Trayvon after he was advised not to. The audio tape cannot fully account for the entire event, it does however demonstrate what Zimmerman was prepared to do.
Why must he go home? Maybe he had a last minute change of plans? Maybe he wanted to go back to his dad's place to get something else?
Human lie detectors have not much greater than chance statistics at detecting lies on others.
Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
All this is going to do is postpone the riots. Whether he's found guilty of anything or not, there will be riots. Sad, sad state of America.
1. No one said they were required to do anything. Like ATS likes to say 'pics or it didn't happen'. Im sticking with that.
2. Do you think the EMT's moved his body 180 degrees so his head was facing the houses and his feet were facing the concrete? Or do you think they just rolled him over where he was and did CPR? They would have rolled him over. And the cop noted the position of the body when he arrived, so even if the body was moved, the cop reported where it was. Witnesses reported seeing where it was. So your argument isn't valid.
4. You make alot of excuses for a man who just murdered an unarmed teenager. I have reported facts as they are known and asked questions to try and find answers. You have blindly accepted the words of a child killer. Ill stay on my side. Not to mention, audio experts agree Zimmerman was not the one yelling. That is why it didn't continue. He never yelled for help that night. I trust science more than I trust a child killer.
5. How do you know he can trust his new lawyer. Seems you are making alot of assumption about people you don't know. Just wow.
Originally posted by shepseskaf
Originally posted by Libertygal
Zimmerman refused to be transported by ambulance to the hospital that night. Ever heard of liquid stitches? EMTs use those a lot.
LMFAO!! Liquid stitches? Is this the level absurdity that has been reached in the search for plausible reasons why neither GZ's appearance or demeanor matches the the concoction of lies he made up that night?
Dermabond is a medical adhesive for the skin that is used in place of sutures to close wounds and incisions. While forming a strong, flexible bond that is gentler and more comfortable than sutures, it also creates a protective barrier that seals out most common infection-causing bacteria. Incisions can be closed 3-5 times faster than suturing and Dermabond simply disappears as the wound heals—leaving no stitches to be removed. Sterile, single-use ampules with chisel-tip for fine line or wide applications. Manufactured by ETHICON, a division of Johnson & Johnson.
February 14, 2008
Liquid Gel Bandage Gets FDA Approval
Researchers at Rutgers University have created a liquid bandage for use in the field and say that it is appropriate for use in combat situations. The FDA released the product for marketing and called it similar to other liquid bandage products on the market.