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During their first moonwalk in July 1969, the Apollo 11 astronauts placed a retroreflector package, a complex mirror system, on the moon’s surface. A laser beam directed from Earth at the retroreflector would bounce off of it and back to Earth. The 240,000-mile round trip takes about 2.5 seconds.
• the moon is spiraling away from Earth at a rate of 3.8 centimeters a year because of the Earth’s ocean tides.
• the moon probably has a liquid core.
• the universal force of gravity is very stable. Newton’s gravitational constant G has changed less than one part in 100-billion since the laser experiments began. Just because the Moon will no longer be a target, it doesn’t mean that the Laser Ranging Station is shutting down.
Originally posted by Vodo34861
And why could the mirror have not been dropped off by a rocket? What defines this as proof? I don't think many will disagree with the fact that there is a mirror of some sorts, who knows maybe we are bouncing the laser off of the moon men's roof. But to say that it had to be placed there by humans is a little over stepping.
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by OptimusSubprime
The Russians landed a rover on the moon which had a similar reflector in its back and was able to be found with a laser from earth, so unfortunately, the NASA placed reflectors aren't proof men walked on the moon...
There's plenty of other evidence to suggest they have though, this just isn't it, or at least it's not accepted by the fake moon landing crowd.
edit on 11/4/12 by Chadwickus because: (no reason given)
Stanley Kubrick is accused of having produced much of the footage for Apollo 11 and 12, presumably because he had just directed 2001: A Space Odyssey which is partly set on the Moon and featured advanced special effects. It has been claimed that when 2001 was in post-production in early 1968, NASA secretly approached Kubrick to direct the first three Moon landings. The launch and splashdown would be real but the spacecraft would remain in Earth orbit and fake footage broadcast as "live" from the Moon's surface. No evidence was offered for this theory, which ignores many facts. For example, 2001 was released before the first Apollo landing and Kubrick's depiction of the Moon's surface is vastly different from its appearance in Apollo video, film and photography. Kubrick did hire Frederick Ordway and Harry Lange, both of whom had worked for NASA and major aerospace contractors, to work with him on 2001. Kubrick also used some 50 mm f/0.7 lenses that were left over from a batch made by Zeiss for NASA. However, Kubrick only got this lens for Barry Lyndon (1975). The lens was originally a still-photo lens and needed changes to be used for motion filming. There is a mockumentary based on this idea, Dark Side of the Moon, but it could have fueled the conspiracy theory. There was a similar hoax article originally posted as a humor piece, but which has been quoted as in earnest by conspiracy theorist Clyde Lewis.
Originally posted by PhoenixOD
reply to post by Illustronic
The pics could have been faked to make it seem that they were placed there during a manned moon landing. If we had indipendant pics taken after the mirrors arived on the moon and they showed foot prints then that would be much more credible in the proof department.
Originally posted by Illustronic
That's a good and valid point, but what would the point be to place footprints around the mirror, wouldn't circular wheels or tracks of some sort be a more efficient mobility mechanism than a seemingly random array of what appears to be footprints from boots?