Are chemtrail believers acting immorally?, page 1


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Topic started on 10-4-2012 @ 06:02 PM by Aloysius the Gaul
A new blog suggests that if you believe in chemtrails then -

Your moral obligation is to document what is happening, in a way that is convincing. Reproducible findings documenting release of non-exhaust chemicals might be one way to do that. Sharing links to 100 page long government working group documents about geoengineering or weather modification is not enough. Pictures and videos of contrails in the sky are not convincing, the contrails are there because the air is a busy place. Insinuations are not enough!

How can you sit back and watch while this is taking place? How can you NOT do the real work you know is necessary, when people are getting ill, perhaps even you and your family? How can you not organize and do the real, open, well planned and reproducible research necessary? What are you doing that is more important?


The chemtrail challenge

Indirectly it seems to be saying that chemtrail believers who do nothing more than post pictures of contrails, post links to patents, or studies of the possibilities of geo-engineering and the like are actually behaving immorally - if they are not working strenuously to obtain the verifiable evidence that must surely exist if chemtrails are real, then they are just hoping on the bandwagon and doing no good at all.

They should stop posting unsupportable assertions and insinuations, get their act together and get actual verifiable evidence.

Or admit that either they have been conned, or they are conn artists themselves.

15 years since this conspiracy began - and still not 1 single piece of verifiable evidence. NOT ONE!


reply posted on 10-4-2012 @ 06:10 PM by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by Goldcurrent





I would say they are the worse offenders for blocking the search for truth.


No one is blocking the search for the truth, chemtrailers just can't prove there is any truth to chemtrails. Are you willing to provide that truth?

Sorry you feel that way the truth is always welcome. Really I am not trying to be antagonizing. If someone has the truth they are welcome to show the proof of chemtrails existing yet nobody has been able to do that yet.
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reply posted on 10-4-2012 @ 06:13 PM by Gmoneycricket
A 5 day old website
I have a feeling it was started by the contrail control group.
Info found so far.
Notice how the person that has issued the challenge,
is not brave enough to list themselves as owners of the web site,
and went with a proxy.
Pretty bold demands from men that hide behind a curtain.



Registrant: Domains By Proxy, LLC DomainsByProxy.com 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (www.godaddy.com...) Domain Name: CHEMTRAILSCHALLENGE.COM Created on: 04-Apr-12 Expires on: 04-Apr-13 Last Updated on: 04-Apr-12 Administrative Contact: Private, Registration CHEMTRAILSCHALLENGE.COM@domainsbyproxy.com Domains By Proxy, LLC DomainsByProxy.com 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598 Technical Contact: Private, Registration CHEMTRAILSCHALLENGE.COM@domainsbyproxy.com Domains By Proxy, LLC DomainsByProxy.com 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598 Domain servers in listed order: NS1.DREAMHOST.COM NS2.DREAMHOST.COM NS3.DREAMHOST.COM Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited Registry Status: clientRenewProhibited Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited Registry Status: clientUpdateProhibited


who.godaddy.com...
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reply posted on 10-4-2012 @ 06:15 PM by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by Gmoneycricket



I guess you aren't willing to take the challenge.

You know I had to ask.


reply posted on 10-4-2012 @ 06:32 PM by Iwinder
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul



50K versus what I ask? 500 trillion dollars and then some?
It sounds like to me here it is the ant versus the elephant in the same room.
You are asking the impossible and you know it.
No worries as of September this year the US is bankrupt once again probably along with other nations and this should put a damper on a lot of flights.
Not to mention you will be out of a job as well.
Regards, Iwinder
campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com...
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reply posted on 10-4-2012 @ 06:43 PM by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Iwinder
reply to
post by Aloysius the Gaul



50K versus what I ask? 500 trillion dollars and then some?


All you have o do is hire an aircraft for an hour or so and take some samples.

What do you need $500 trillion for?

And the $500 trillion you have pulled out of thin air (sic) is just fantasy anyway - just a big number to try and scare people.

The total US Federal budget for 2011 was 3.6 trillion - so according to your dishonest scaremongering chemtails are being supported by expenditure approximately 160 times the total annual Federal budget "and then some"

Just more excuses for not doing the right thing.

Somehow I knew this would be the case - rather than actually bothering to prove their case, chemtrail believers are busy making excuses why they can't, won't or shouldn't have to.

IMO it is because they don't want to admit being conned, or alternatively to having done the conning.

enough excuses - man up for a change!

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reply posted on 10-4-2012 @ 06:47 PM by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by Gmoneycricket



excuse, excuses, excuses......

Just like the blog writer said - yep - his case is being proved with every new believer posting


reply posted on 10-4-2012 @ 07:13 PM by Gmoneycricket
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to
post by Gmoneycricket



excuse, excuses, excuses......

Just like the blog writer said - yep - his case is being proved with every new believer posting


You are the one walking the fine line of TC of the site.
You work in the industry,
and promoting what you call acceptable pollution from said industry.
I will always state,
I believe you have an agenda that you are promoting on this site.
So all you have to do is prove you do not work in the industry,
and there is no chemicals in contrails.
But that does not meet your agenda.
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