Santorum out!!!

Originally posted by Contag

Originally posted by OneisOne
Depends on the rules of each state. And I would say many people are wondering the same since the Washington Post did an article on the topic.

Of Santorum’s 281 total delegates (according to the Associated Press count), 84 were won in five states that award their delegates in nonbinding contests.

That means that the delegates...

OiO

Thanks for the info/link, and thanks to you too, getreadyalready. You both have cleared up a question that apparently was answered easily enough without telling me that I have no place talking about this subject.

Originally posted by RowdyAmerican1
I'm sure they will spread them out evenly to Mitt Romney. Not to be rude but if you lack the knowledge plz don't comment.

Not to be rude but if you lack the ability to be a sensible human being "plz don't comment."

Don't tell someone to stay quiet when they're actively trying to become educated in the going ons of a currently occurring topic, which happens to be of some importance. This is aside from the fact that I didn't comment. A comment would be me chiming in with my opinion, or in general making some sort of statement. The only statement I made was confessing my unwarranted ignorance, which is lacking information that would turn the tide of the thread or influence others. What I did was inquire as to insight that you could provide. But it seems since you didn't know enough yourself to answer the question, you resorted to being a condescending jerk-off, which followed an effortless attempt to explain what you meant.

I could have looked this up, but assumed the answer would be easy enough for you to explain. And I greatly appreciate the thought out answers to my questions.

edit - estrellas for OiO and getreadyalready

edit on 10-4-2012 by Contag because: estrellas!

Thank you.. I was gonna say something too. The guy is trying to learn something I don't know why anyone would be rude and blow him off like that

Edit: Didn't know you were the original poster my bad.

Well, the last guy we want to be President is the guy getting the support of the troops. We need to fight this never-ending war on Terror. Our grandchildren will thank us for everything we did. No more pesky liberties to contend with. No need to worry about a job - the government will provide. They will be safe and secure under the watchful eye of Big Brother.

As far as I can see he hasn't dropped out as much as just suspended his campaign. He has implied that he still has a part to play in all this, so is it possible he will formally stay in as a candidate until the convention?

I'm not 100% sure about this, but wouldn't that mean his delegates would remain bound to him all the way to Tampa, and so in the event of a brokered convention he could simply say: 'Right guys, why don't y'all go get behind Romney and we'll have our nominee'. By doing this he would prevent Ron Paul (or even Gingrich) from having any influence over the choosing of eventual nominee and guarantee the Republican establishment gets their way. A kind of back-up strategy in case Romney doesn't get the required number of delegates beforehand.

He could probably be convinced to do this by bribing him with the VP or a high-ranking cabinet position. Of course in reality he'd get neither as Obama would win the election, but Santorum would remain a prominant figure in the GOP as a result. TPTB would get their way and Santorum would get his.

Originally posted by SystemFailure1994
As far as I can see he hasn't dropped out as much as just suspended his campaign. He has implied that he still has a part to play in all this, so is it possible he will formally stay in as a candidate until the convention?

Do you think he'll gain some sympathy votes? I can see how that might happen since so many people make their choices based on emotions rather than logic.

I have to admit, my first thought was:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

First they take Palin, then Bachmann, and now Santorum

All the great GOP comedians are now gone, and we're stuck with Romney...who's comparable to some wanna-be B-movie actor with an ego the size of the sun. Still entertaining, just more of a tragedy than a comedy.

I wonder if Santorum will be back with his "Santorum, because f*** logic!!" slogan in 2016

Also, everyone rejoice, we get to keep our porn

Originally posted by SoymilkAlaska
reply to post by bknapple32

 

SANTORUM TRIES TO MAKE PORN ILLEGAL.

*angry wolf face*

WE MAKE HIM ILLEGAL.

Not from a moral or ethical, but from a mental health point of view, porn is detrimental.

Everybody can't be right about everything all of the time.
Nobody can be wrong about nothing none of the time.

Santorum is an ass, and was set up to fall (Along with gingrich, romney and even obama,
thus leaving a clear path for ron paul to shine, in both the public and the msm's eyes.)

It is all scripted, I tell thee.

I really don't understand voters who supported Santorum and now would move their support for Ron Paul. They were the complete opposites on issues!! Santorum was gung-ho on going to war with Iran and also believed in assassinations. He supported the Federal Reserve, and he was one of the biggest spenders during his time as a senator. The guy makes decisions based upon his religion instead of public support and historical data. He was also a lobbyist after he lost his re-election bid. I'm glad he dropped out of the race, that's just another loose cannon and moron that uninformed voters would vote for. Now we'll see some people switching their vote for Gingrich and ignoring his questionable dealings while he was Speaker of the House. Gingrich was also a paid lobbyist.

I'm glad Paul will be getting more support, but I still can't believe voters don't research the candidates stand on issues before supporting them. There's no rhyme or reason, that's why we have corrupt and incompetent elected officials. Give us a criminal, an incompetent fool for president as long as they have looks, speak well, or just seems likable. Never mind about the guys voting record or his past questionable dealings.

Originally posted by SystemFailure1994

I'm not 100% sure about this, but wouldn't that mean his delegates would remain bound to him all the way to Tampa, and so in the event of a brokered convention he could simply say: 'Right guys, why don't y'all go get behind Romney and we'll have our nominee'. By doing this he would prevent Ron Paul (or even Gingrich) from having any influence over the choosing of eventual nominee and guarantee the Republican establishment gets their way. A kind of back-up strategy in case Romney doesn't get the required number of delegates beforehand.

Not sure what an endorsement for Romney would do if Santorum was to completely drop out of the race but if it came to a brokered convention that would be after the first vote and the bound delegates would be freed to vote as they please, in which case his plea to his previously bound delegates would then merely be a request.

What makes that prospect all the more interesting is that many Ron Paul supporters will go to the convention as bound delegates to other candidates, and if the convention becomes brokered everybody could be in for a big surprise - even if it doesn't make Paul the winner it should give his detractors a few heart palpitations. That's why I hate to see Santorum out of the game, he needs to be campaigning actively and winning states so Romney doesn't get the nomination on the first go-around.

to Paul's naysayers.

I like how Jon Stuart put it on the Daily Show:
"Santorum's dropping out now so he doesn't have to lose in his homestate."
Think about it. His homestate will know all of the details of his life that the mainstream media didn't put out....and there's a lot of f'd up # in Santorum's history. Santorum was going to lose in his homestatem, pretty much guaranteed.

This man was never going to become president..He knew this before submitting his name for election. Santorum and Gingrich both submitted there names for flag and country, (so they thought) but ultimately were just a distraction for the media.. So not as many people would notice the medias blatant blest of Ron Paul, or the elite love affair with Romney. The majority of the money they spent in this election they think will be returned to them in one form or another. But at this point no matter who wins, the promises made will fall short. There are huge things happening behind the seans right now..And alot of people are going to have a very rude awakening, not only in the political arena..

Things are changing, and without drastic change of tactics on the elites part.. The election no matter who wins will mark there checkmate.. Even if there man Romney wins without his backing from the elite will be nothing more then a bulldog with an extremely tight muzzle.

That said. i am for Ron Paul..
An i do feel sorry for that 20% of you who come in here just to tear down others,spreading those half truths
Thinking the whole time you know better then most..For you are already lost to truth.

maybe it's a good thing me thinks. When I watched a news clip showing how he "humbly" moved to the centre of a room to have hands laid on him and his comment that global waming is not real, well those things ring alarm bells that he would be in the running fo the position of arguably the most poweful man in the world

reply to post by bknapple32

DISCLAIMER: This is not "voter apathy" speaking. This is realization that the entire political system is just a facade engineered to create the perception that common people have a say in big decisions. TPTB (The Powers That Be) have a stake in keeping the "masses" happy. When "we" are not being deluged with "Wine and Circus," we are told we actually have a say in legislation and election.

Well, legislation serves BIG CORPORATIONS (which are now "people" according to some politicians). Just take a look at laws passed recently, and you might see who congress/government is truly serving. One example: congress passed a law PREVENTING a beef company from testing 100% of its beef for mad cow disease becasue it might force the entire cattle industry to spend more money to make their beef safer too. A company was ordered to cease and desist its program to make its product safer for American consumers because in doing so, that company would "force" the rest of the industry to spend money. Further, another law was passed that makes SPEAKING OUT ---EVEN IF IT IS TRUE-- against an industry would cause financial loss. In other words, even if what you say is TRUE, you are legally liable for **damages** to an industry if your revelations cause that industry financial damage. Oprah and that cattleman would now be legally liable for damages against the cattle industry ---even if what they said was true. Luckily for them, they exposed bad practices before congress passed such a law (the law was, in fact, passed after special interest lobbying in response to the Oprah incident).

These are just a couple of examples to illustrate exactly WHO the government considers first. Special interest. Bankers. Big Corporations. --Basically, people and entities with billions of dollars have bought the system. In the end, it matters not who runs for office.

There exists a hidden global agenda that will be forwarded no matter who sits in the Big Chair. We either concern ourselves with this or decide that ignorance is bliss which allows us to truly enjoy that weekend barbeque of untested beef with friends over beer and NASCAR or whatever other pleasant distraction is available.

reply to post by Violater1

this absolutley made my day just knowing santorum isn't a possibility anymore. that man was a disgrace. paul did well against romney in virginia one on one, it's a long shot but maybe he can do some good in texas and california.

reply to post by bknapple32


Considering that his daughter is dying, I think that dropping out is the right move. At least he has his priorities straight.

Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by bknapple32

 

Considering that his daughter is dying, I think that dropping out is the right move. At least he has his priorities straight.

Well, it's not as if she just got this disease now...she had it the entire time he ran his campaign. Also kinda ironic that the very thing he opposes (stem cell research, gene technology) would also be the thing that could possibly save his daughter.

I wish his daughter all the luck in the world, no one deserves what she's going through...but her dad is a bigot and clueless fool

reply to post by MrXYZ


For the record I'm no fan of Santorum of Social Conservatism, and yes, his daughter being sick is nothing new, but it seems that her condition has worsened to the point where she is going to die soon. As far as stem cell research is concerned, I guess it depends on where those stem cells come from. If they come from aborted babies then I can see why he would be against it, considering his religious beliefs, and I can certainly respect that.

reply to post by OptimusSubprime


The stem cells they need are from an embryo that has less than 150 cells, and in the end, his irrational belief and resulting policies is probably what makes sure his daughter can't be saved. I respect people's beliefs, but not at the expense of human lives. And no, 150 cells isn't human life. If it were, every time a woman has a pregnancy that lasts less than 4-5 days (which happens A LOT...most of the time they don't even notice their pregnancy is over) before the embryo is expelled would be guilty of killing a human.

The entire thing is complete and utter nonsense, and they're showing pictures of babies to appeal to people's emotions...when in reality the cells they need don't come from anything resembling a baby. There aren't even any brain waves...or brain for that matter!

His belief is costing lives, and that's a FACT I'm afraid.

reply to post by frazzle

Mabye if he stays in formally until the convention. However, I can't see any sympathy voting lasting all the way to Tampa, and he will certainly lose many votes rather than gain them in the coming primaries. In my opinion his followers will shift about 5/10 to Romney (as he will be seen as the only other electable candidate), 3/10 to Gingrich (those people who feel they need someone a little more conservative who isn't Ron Paul), and 1/10 to Paul (people who see him as the only remaining conservative or people who actually change their mind and look at his policies). The rest will either not vote or continue to vote Santorum anyway.

Santorum's said that his descision is down to the health of his daughter, and that probably is a factor. I mean he might be a two-faced idiot, but he's still human. The fact that he was likely to have lost his home-state would have been a major embarrassment, so thats more likely to have been why he has 'dropped-out' now.

reply to post by Erongaricuaro

Right. Well, I think he will just hold his campaign in suspension so he can have some say at the convention, and cover all possible bases for TPTB (though of course he doesn't know he's doing this). In the event of a brokered convention does the candidates 'request' for who their delegates should go to actually hold much sway? I'd guess a lot of the brainwashed Santorum people would follow blindly what their master says and go to Romney if he told them to.

Also, you mentioned the stealth-supporters Paul has buried as delegates for the others. I'd heard rumours of this before, is their actually any truth in this, and if so does anyone have any idea how many delegates Paul would gain if they would become unbound? I dare say a lot of the genuine supporters for Santorum (if he stays in formally), Gingrich and Romney would also vote with their brains for once and choose Paul in a brokered convention. On the other hand, would a BC just influence everyone to rally behind Romney in an effort to present an 'electable' candidate to face Obama?

Finally, they couldn't just rig the convention for Romney could they, like they have the state primaries and caucuses? I don't know if that's possible as it would be too public for them to try anything, still I wouldn't put it past them.

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by OptimusSubprime

 

The stem cells they need are from an embryo that has less than 150 cells, and in the end, his irrational belief and resulting policies is probably what makes sure his daughter can't be saved. I respect people's beliefs, but not at the expense of human lives. And no, 150 cells isn't human life. If it were, every time a woman has a pregnancy that lasts less than 4-5 days (which happens A LOT...most of the time they don't even notice their pregnancy is over) before the embryo is expelled would be guilty of killing a human.

The entire thing is complete and utter nonsense, and they're showing pictures of babies to appeal to people's emotions...when in reality the cells they need don't come from anything resembling a baby. There aren't even any brain waves...or brain for that matter!

His belief is costing lives, and that's a FACT I'm afraid.

edit on 11-4-2012 by MrXYZ because: (no reason given)

Everything you said is your opinion. There is no proof as to when life begins. I personally believe that it begins when the heart starts beating, which is about 22 days in, but again, that is MY opinion. If the embryo is expelled due to natural causes, then that is not the woman's fault and she is not guilty of murder. Rick Santorum believes that life begins at conception, which may be nonsense to you, but it isn't to him, so in his mind he would be taking a life in order to save one. Just because the embryo only has 150 cells doesn't mean that it isn't alive, because there are many organisms that are alive with less than that, including single cell organisms. Now you can make the distinction that it isn't human life if you choose to, but it is life nonetheless.