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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by NaptownBrown
Well, why isn't Germany still a Socialist country if that economic mindset is indeed a miracle.

It worked in the 30's for Hitler because there was no other choice. Make the Germans dependent on their gov't and in turn, they will eventually become fiercly loyal. The German people were desparately poor. They will not question the rounding up of strangers and gassing them. They will not question the invading of sovereign nations. They will only know that their gov't is their provider and its their duty to obey it.

I don't want Barry Obama or George W BUsh or Mitt ROmney or any of them making me dependent on my country for liberty. My liberty belongs to me.


Because if you try to resist Globalisation/Imperialism you become an enemy of the Imperial Empire. Germany is not socialist but it does lean that way in alot of respect's. So much that some make the stretch that they are socialist even though they are not.

And this whole "dependant on the government" stuff is just lobotomized McCarthyist parroting. Do you think that you dont depend on your Government? Are you safe from the fact that almost all Western Governments are basically bankrupt?

What are you? Some kind of hippy that owns a veggie patch? What makes you so immune to your government?
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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Their engineers, scientist and even their skilled tradesmen were the best in Europe if not the world.



Some of the best yes, they simply had more breathing room, more avenues of research open to them, and for longer.
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 03:47 PM
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I have read the book too , I just thought that had anyone from british intelligence or american intelligence had actually read his book they would have realised what he was actually planning to do.
Surely our intelligence at the time would have known of this?

Especially as Hitler expressed his desires to use propaganda and how such a powerful tool would help rebuild Germany.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by sapien82
I have read the book too , I just thought that had anyone from british intelligence or american intelligence had actually read his book they would have realised what he was actually planning to do.
Surely our intelligence at the time would have known of this?

Especially as Hitler expressed his desires to use propaganda and how such a powerful tool would help rebuild Germany.



Yeah,its pretty obvious what he planned on doing. He telegraphs everything.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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I can't believe I'm reading this. Do you honestly believe Hitler was a great leader? He was a complete and utter failure. He rode to power on an economic bubble which collapsed just as every other economic bubble collapses. His idea of "World Peace" was to drag the world into a war and destroy anyone who opposed his idea of peace.
All of his ridiculous ideas were proven wrong by their own pitiful demise.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:23 PM
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funny, the globalists are still telegraphing everything and it's still a surprise to most.
Its like how you never hear about the deal Hitler nade so the Jews could ALL LEAVE
it was the zionist lobbies that bribed the western governments to NOT LET THEM HAVE SAFE HAVEN
oh
of course
it is the same ZIONIST controlled media that is bringing you TRAVON ZIMMERMAN edited recordings 24/7
instead of telling you the globallists are about to WW you yet AGAIN



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by simplybill
I can't believe I'm reading this. Do you honestly believe Hitler was a great leader? He was a complete and utter failure. He rode to power on an economic bubble which collapsed just as every other economic bubble collapses. His idea of "World Peace" was to drag the world into a war and destroy anyone who opposed his idea of peace.
All of his rediculous ideas were proven wrong by their own pitiful demise.


you know the EU?
its a recent occurance right?
so how come it just celebrated its 50th analversery?
no Hitler: no EU.
funny how that works eh?

I guess you are too young to remember the Kaiser and WW1
or the creation of the protestants and the resulting religious wars that lflattened half of europe
I think things are a little more complicated then you can't believe
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by simplybill
I can't believe I'm reading this. Do you honestly believe Hitler was a great leader? He was a complete and utter failure. He rode to power on an economic bubble which collapsed just as every other economic bubble collapses. His idea of "World Peace" was to drag the world into a war and destroy anyone who opposed his idea of peace.
All of his ridiculous ideas were proven wrong by their own pitiful demise.


Really? Thje thing that he was fighting against is the biggest threat that the world faces today. Internationalization. Or 'globalization' as we call it.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:36 PM
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and the other worst thing (or it was)
Stalin and the CCCP



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by simplybill
I can't believe I'm reading this. Do you honestly believe Hitler was a great leader? He was a complete and utter failure. He rode to power on an economic bubble which collapsed just as every other economic bubble collapses. His idea of "World Peace" was to drag the world into a war and destroy anyone who opposed his idea of peace.
All of his ridiculous ideas were proven wrong by their own pitiful demise.


He was not a great leader. He was a great figure head.

He did not simply "ride to power on an economic bubble".... he was allowed to rise on an economic bubble created by the same people who manufacture all such economic situations... the financial manipulators of the world.

His ideas, his objectives, his over-the-top cult of personality... it was all manufactured. And "he" wasn't the one who manufactured it.... it was done for him... not by his people, not by the German population----- in this regard he was used to brutally hurt mankind... because mankind would be obliged to respond... and so we did.

Hitler could NEVER win. And I maintain my proposition that the banking and financial cartel backing him knew this... and counted on his ambition and fanatic zealous nature to blind him to the reality of the situation. Think about it... they never cared enough to pull the economic support from him .... who were these people? Anti-Semite zealots? .. No. They were "businessmen." And in true corporate style... "Good business" (profit) was all that mattered.

In a world where money had already been replaced by debt... only the debt masters can win - ever. Hitler and his eager beavers were too busy with political ideology and dreams of Aryan/Arthurian legends to realize their ship began sinking while they were still boarding.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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Honestly, the closest thing we have to the Nazi Party is the Tea Party. There is no difference whatsoever. The rise of Nazism demanded a reestablished government to represent their great country of Germany. The TP fanatics want the same when it comes to methods of doing such a thing.

I'm too tired to go into more details but if you don't see the resemblance than you really need to open your eyes.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by chr0naut
reply to post by Germanicus
 


The reparations Germany was forced to pay did not come from nowhere.

Germany attempted to bolster its wealth and power by taking that which it did not own.

It caused the opposition from several countries and Germany was crushed by the military superiority of that opposition.

The victor countries demanded reparation to pay for their losses in defending their territory.

Germany was NOT the poor little oppressed country in all this. The sweep of history was larger than the little window of time you mention.



what British territory exactly!

Really, the punishment levelled at Germany (when it was not a clear cut, this is the bad guy this is the good guy war) was equal to the amount spent by those who also indulged in war, but just happened to win?


Nah, nah and thrice nah

Of course it wasn't
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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funny Israel never fought Germany
Israel could not have come about unless Germany did what it did to help create Israel
yet guess who is probably the biggest benefiter of Nazi war debt?

funny that eh?
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 05:05 PM
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I have to challenge the notion that anyone knew the Germans would lose before it began. A few simple mistakes were all that kept the Germans from beating both England and the Soviet Union. Had he taken each on individually the outcome of the war may have been far different.
When France fell England had less than 100 tanks left to defend itself and most of the Royal Navy was spread all over the world.
Hitler failed to take Russia by dividing his forces to take Leningrad, Stalingrad and Moscow at the same time.

My point being that it either way the bankers and investors would profit handsomely.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 05:21 PM
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It's rather easy to achieve economic success in a country when a significant portion of the population is stripped of all wealth and property and used for heating.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by Baddogma
It's rather easy to achieve economic success in a country when a significant portion of the population is stripped of all wealth and property and used for heating.


That wealth wasn't spent it was scurried away and out of sight like squirrel nuts.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 05:26 PM
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I don't care what this man did/done before he was responsible for over 70 million deaths,

The sad thing is, unless the world is united under one entity "AND VERY SOON" this will happen time & time again as it has done so since the birth of civilization, and what is more worrying is, our weapons are getting ever more destructive every single year, and the resources smaller and smaller, the future is very bleak as absolutely nothing has been learned, right now i struggle to see how we will make it to a type 1 civilization

The answer is not to get in to another war, the answer is not to bring down the bankers, the answer is not to point fingers at other nations and blaming, the answer is to come together as a world wide community and demand changes, just as voting a different party in, makes absolutely no difference or bring change... neither would another super power stepping up to police after one has fallen, they will as they always have ...do exactly the same
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 05:30 PM
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"one day they will realise i was right"
he was right about economic and jobs and his plans will be used again.... and again...
of course he will never get credit they will give credit to the guy who Hitler got the idea from...

and when it happens the time after that they will maybe just maybe give him credit
(only if the next guy to use plan is even worse than he was)

history repeats itself it is an in escapable fact...

I wouldn't have minded living in Hitler's Germany (I'm not Jewish)
as long as i didnt do anything immoral or outright wrong...

disclaimer;;
i do not condone any actions taken by Hitler or the people working for him during both world wars
(had to put this in to prevent myself from being sick on keyboard)

hopefully when history repeats itself the 10% of Hitler's ideology that makes sense is used
and the sickening 90% is left to gather dust...



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by Insearchofthetruth1987
"one day they will realise i was right"
he was right about economic and jobs and his plans will be used again.... and again...
of course he will never get credit they will give credit to the guy who Hitler got the idea from...

and when it happens the time after that they will maybe just maybe give him credit
(only if the next guy to use plan is even worse than he was)

history repeats itself it is an in escapable fact...

I wouldn't have minded living in Hitler's Germany (I'm not Jewish)
as long as i didnt do anything immoral or outright wrong...

disclaimer;;
i do not condone any actions taken by Hitler or the people working for him during both world wars
(had to put this in to prevent myself from being sick on keyboard)

hopefully when history repeats itself the 10% of Hitler's ideology that makes sense is used
and the sickening 90% is left to gather dust...


Even as a Jew you could have made it work. 150000 Jews fought for Hitler in WW2. You could be a Jew in Germany under Hitler if you were pulling in the right direction.

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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
reply to post by Maxmars
 


Most regimes don't come to power by murdering or locking up their enemies in fact the only Western nations to have done so in the 20th century were solely the Fascist powers of Spain, Italy and Germany.


I know the thread has moved past this point already, but didn't the US lock-up tons of Japanese people just for being Japanese during the war? I know we were already in power at the time, but is that considered different? I mean, obviously we let them go at some point....but still.









 
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