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Stop whining.That's all I'm getting from your post.It's not that big of a deal to me.There is a reason why there's so much security.It is not 1920 anymore.The world has changed and so has America.Really,if you don't like it either do one of two things.Find another job or move to another country.Also,do you really expect security not to be tight in our nations capital?REALLY?
Originally posted by camus154
Good God. Enough.
Those of you whining about losing all real freedoms, please.
Go to a country that truly is a police state. Go someplace where the cops can throw your ass in jail, no calls to lawyers, can sentence you, no jury. Can take away your electricity, your water supply, your livelihood, with zero explanation.
If you're sitting here right now complaining about how bad it is in America, then you have absolutely no idea of how bad it truly could be. Your problem is one of perspective.
America isn't perfect. Hell no. There are scary things that have happened since 9/11. Sure. But America is still fundamentally America. Sorry to rain on your weird, creepy conspiracy fetishes, but we're still the best damned game around.
Honestly. I get really tired of hearing so many so-called patriots bitch and moan about a country they supposedly love so damned much. The very fact that you can sit here, night after night, dreaming up whatever fantasies you wish about how fascist America has become, is the very proof that it isn't any of those things!
The best any of you have is extremely loose conjecture based upon a giant Orwellian "what if" that "may" happen "sometime" in the future. Because we get patted down at the airport. Because one of you saw a flatbed transporting military vehicles. Because hillbilly cops sometimes fabricate reasons to pull you over.
Here's a novel idea. Here's a real game changer for you. Here's some truly subversive thinking. Try dealing with reality for a change. Try living in the here and now for a moment.
Try appreciating for one friggin' day what you DO have, all the freedoms you DO enjoy. Try looking around you at all the great things this country DOES provide and how good you DO have it.
I know. Weird, huh?
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Wow, another imbecile who thinks we should actually WAIT until the gulags are FULL before we even discuss the march toward a totalitarian state in the U.S.
How about you shut up and let the thinkers on ATS have a discussion about this little problem our country faces, and possibly do something about it BEFORE it is TOO LATE.
How about you move to a police state and see for yourself what this country will be like in a few years because people like YOU refuse to even talk about it.
Originally posted by Cdaddy1034
reply to post by poloblack
I for one am OK with escalated security at places like airports, and national attractions. When it starts to affect my day to day life is when I will get upset about it.
Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by poloblack
If you live in city limits, try discharging your firearm and see what happens, even if you're on ''your property''.
Yeah, if I did that I would probably shoot and kill my neighbor
You can't say what you want.
You mean like yell fire in a crowded theater?
USA has issues but it isn't really a police state, sure it could be eventually but it isn't there yet. North Korea is a police state, USA is nothing like it. If it were, all of us on here would be sent to a labor camp already.
Originally posted by Cdaddy1034
reply to post by poloblack
I for one am OK with escalated security at places like airports, and national attractions. When it starts to affect my day to day life is when I will get upset about it.
Not making a conscious effort to observe me just for the fact that so mant people are around to see you so being on closed circuit t.v is not really an issue for me. Just like walking into a business and seeing all the security cameras dont bother me at all.
this guy looked right at me and said "we're our own worst enemies". Now do you think that one simple line is somewhat related to the CCTV cameras you alluded to? Meaning that if there was no one robbing other people, no one brutalizing other people would there be any need for these camera's? I dont know...are we (humanity) our own worst enemies? If not us then what is?
Many other states have monitored antiwar activists, gathering and storing names and information. Texas and other states have stored “intelligence” on Muslims. Pennsylvania gathered reports on opponents of natural gas drilling. Florida has scrutinized supporters of presidential candidate Ron Paul. The list of such questionable activities is very long. We have no idea how much dubious data has been squirreled away by authorities and remains within the networked system. But we do know that information pours into it with relative ease and spreads like an oil slick. Cleaning up and removing the mess is another story entirely.
Those flash grenades exploding in Oakland and the sound cannons on New York’s streets simply opened small windows onto a national policing landscape long in the process of militarization -- a bleak domestic no man’s land marked by tanks and drones, robot bomb detectors, grenade launchers, tasers, and most of all, interlinked video surveillance cameras and information databases growing quietly on unobtrusive server farms everywhere.
Originally posted by votan
reply to post by MRuss
The US can potentially be the worst police state.. but it is not quite there yet. Other countries are worse
Originally posted by godfather420
Originally posted by Cdaddy1034
reply to post by poloblack
I for one am OK with escalated security at places like airports, and national attractions. When it starts to affect my day to day life is when I will get upset about it.
So your logic is that as long as it isn't affecting you yet you just ignore the other people that it is affecting? In daily life?
This is our collective problem. Most people are selfish.
I am by no means in a police state but damn it is getting close. I choose to use my freedom that I still have to try and help other people from what I don't want to happen to anyone else. That is just called paying it forward. Because there may just be a day when the police state affects you. Going to be a little too late to do something about it when ur locked up without due process huh?
You are also going to feel helpless and just hopefuly there are people that are still freedom lovers who will support you in your endevour rather than selfish people that say "well it aint my problem, hasn't hit me yet."
Come together folks before it is too late. Famous last words "it will never happen to me"