Originally posted by novemberecho
wow. at first I was like.
THIS IS GONNA BE CRAYYY
but you've got a lot of support for it. and if we can believe in different dimensions, then maybe this is happening. but perhaps on a different plane or dimension (sorry my terminology is probably off on that plane/dimension stuff.
very good! I can tell you put a lot of thought and work into this!
Originally posted by ramle
reply to post by Furbs
This also goes with the story arch of the Charmed Series and my own spiritual path. There are so many hidden things in my own path that I might never be done gathering all the information. There's a lot of power in some of the tools that are made by Wizards. I'm actually a sorcerer, but anyway, I use magic for my personal gains and have made several tools that were hidden from me and gaining that knowledge really set my teachers in a rut. I was actually barred from contact with them, but it's no obstacle in gaining further knowledge.
Even if this knowledge was handed out, it's not likely to be believed like what happened with my starting a thread about summoning and commanding demons. That's probably why Wizards aren't on here trying to stop those thread throwing open their secret world. This thread itself is exposing them. Once you are able to see the magical world, it never goes away. I had a friend over and we made magical rings blessed by some of the demons I call upon for favors and they really showed us their powers by sending my friend into a crazed state because he couldn't handle the power. I bet this sort of stuff happens when Muggles try to use magical tools. I even lent out my book so a friend could read it and better understand me in true Charmed Tradition. I let a new friend in on my secret. He's now opening up to the magical world and is freaking out. Muggles are just too blind to ever comprehend what is being hidden with good reason. I'm actually becoming adept at catching wizards or magical people with my sixth sense.
Originally posted by xBlueButterflyx
It is interesting as a comparison thread but I wouldn't relate it all to wizards. A lot of people are witches but there is no world we can slip in and out of unless you count Astral Projecting. Harry Potter is a good series but it's not our world. The creatures and some things they've used in the series are taken from real things that exist though. There are things that like to stay hidden but they arn't people like us.
Also, I would most definitely not call the Men in Black a wizard. I've read both The Mothman Prophecies and The Real Men in Black books and these things are far more strange and dangerous then just making sure we don't see what we are not meant to see. They don't want us seeing anything to do with UFO's or aliens or even crypt-ids and mysterious of the earth....conspiracies....ect. They are not harmless either, they have been known to kill people for not complying and keeping their files on stuff they should not have. One man they had warned multiple times was found dead and missing his heart like it just 'vanished'.
Originally posted by StratosFear
Nice and very interesting post, now a question.
Where would one draw the line between magic and technology? Could this magic be a form of technology however old and forgotten?
Originally posted by MrRottenTreats
Apparently everyone here in ATS lives in a fantasy land... this is NOT a conspiracy theory and should be posted in fantasy. There is no such thing as magic here on earth, no super powers of shooting fireballs or disappearing into smoke from magic - that is fictional. Wizards, druids, warlocks, witches do not exist in the "magic-ability" sense. Real issues are our national debt ceiling, poverty, standard of living, these are real issues. And if wizards were actually real, the only real "wizard" that ever lived on earth would be Jesus, and he has yet to enter this discussion.
Originally posted by Vandettas
This is how it works : If it doesn't fit the TPTB definition of normal, people ridicule you for it.
Most people don't realize it, but the things they see in movies (super-heros, aliens, REAL magic, super technology) are indeed real. They try to get you to think in this way :
"If its in a movie, its obviously not real".
"If NASA says it, it must be true"
"He has a PhD, so wouldn't ever lie to us"
"I use to think I could be a superhero, but since I know its JUST a movie, its not real"
Its this whole norm they brainwash people in. The minute you start asking questions, people
get mad and try to bash you because its not what they have been told is "normal". (The one line replies people post that don't contribute to the damn thread in anway) People don't
think for themselves - the news tells them what to do, eat, think, and buy.
Thats why I find this thread so interesting.
Although I disagree with the OP on some points, it gives me no reason to bash.
TO EVERYONE WHOS LAUGHING AT THE OP, I WANT YOU TO KNOW IM LAUGHING 10X HARDER AT
YOU FOR LETTING TPTB THINK AND TELL YOU WHATS NORMAL AND NOT NORMAL.
Originally posted by ronishia
i have to applaud the way you structured the op, it was well laid out and neat and it makes easy reading, if only more thread starters put as much thought into it.
i do believe in the mystery of magic and creatures that we perhaps dont understand, inter dimensions that us mere mortals perhaps will rarely nor never see. i dont however believe that there is a hogwarts or even that an ounce of the mysteries of harry potter, to me, that is pure fantasy through and through. An interesting concept non the less.
Magic's do exist, the unknown exist to what extent we will never know. Intresting reading irrigardless though for the thought out effort
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Originally posted by Furbs
Aliens - Constructs of Convenience?
Hollywood and Science Fiction in general may have helped the Wizards keep hidden. Perhaps when Wizards used to walk amongst us freely, helping us with our daily lives, man was able to do great things. We built the monolithic structures known as The Pyramids, Stonehenge, and Puma Punku. Could all of the Ancient Astronaut Theorists be correct about being helped, but merely misguided as to who helped us? Perhaps we built these with help from or Wizardly friends and other magical humanoids that live on (or in) our planet. Satyrs, Reptilians, Giants, and other types of creatures may have roamed freely to our amusement and terror.
Eventually the wizards realized that the non-Wizards were attaining far too much power and might one day have the power and motivation to capture and kill them. As previously stated, the Inquisition and the Witch Trials were clearly evidence that the Wizards may have been correct to have hidden centuries before. However, tales of monsters and magical relics continued to creep up every now and again, and wizards continuously put themselves in harm's way to keep us from finding out about them.
Luckily for the wizards, us non-wizards are pretty creative! Science Fiction authors began to write fantastic stories in the early part of the last century, and created the entire idea of Extra Terrestrial visitation as a means to sell stories. Early accounts of Aliens were all over the place, ranging from looking exactly like us to monstrous horrors that resembled gelatinous blobs with no discernible shape. Suddenly, out of nowhere, people began to tell stories of actual aliens coming out of the sky and speaking with them. Sometimes taking them back home, other times abducting them and doing horrible things to them. As time progressed, the aliens appeared more humanlike, less globular. The Wizards may have had a hand in that!
The Wizards, always looking for another way to mask their presence while going about saving both us from magic and magic from us, drew on the ancient stories for archetypes of old (Reptilians, Grays, Half-Animalmen) and created the alien races we enjoy today to confuse and excite those that would seek out the truth. While the benevolent Wizards use the imagery to help, some less scrupulous Wizards, use the imagery to frighten and terrorize humans, as they see us as weak, and like cattle.
Crop circles, UFOs, Alien Abduction, Monolithic Help? Could these all be the handiwork of our Wizarding brethren?