However how much a second revolution would help, it won't be useful. The governments have more weapons then they tell us. The Laser beam isn't all. They have an entire army of drones. A second revolution would just get squashed without results upon the government.

YES!!!!! A second revolution...this time we have to kill all the lawyers, judges, prisoners, junkies, medicaid - section 8, college professors, newscasters, global warming nuts, 9/11 trueth idiots...mexicans, spics, isamic terrorists....need I go on?

perhaps true change will not happen until America divides into several countries. North, South, West and Jefferson. Then everybody just picks up and goes to what suits them. Clearly in these threads there is no majority, and Minorities get panty bunch syndrome.
Now here lies a solution. Ha!!!

I forgot the politicians....we need to drag every liberal democrap and liberatarian (ron paul) out of their beds and wack'm...two in the front of the head (so they can see the bullet comming) and then we need to take care of all their offspring....we need to leave no stone unturned....we must wack'm all....

then we will have change. and hope...

Originally posted by rebellender
perhaps true change will not happen until America divides into several countries. North, South, West and Jefferson. Then everybody just picks up and goes to what suits them. Clearly in these threads there is no majority, and Minorities get panty bunch syndrome.
Now here lies a solution. Ha!!!

At this point in the game, I agree with you.
Just let me know which geographical area will adopt and continue to support the Constitution, and I will be there shortly.

No. I believe we need some serious change say like justice and equality, but I think we should be more evolved and smarter that we should not have to resort to the tactics of the other side to beat them. Revolution has a very high price and that price is human lives lost or destroyed in the process. Yes freedom, equality and justice are worth that cost and always will be but there must be another way. I don't think the current political system allows for the type of change needed but there are always other options. Regardless of what we have been told and led to believe we are not the minority. The masses are all thinking the same thing, the game is rigged and we have been used and played for fools. We have the numbers and that is a start. I love my country, that is the America I pledged allegiance to as a child, but what we have today is not that America anymore. We have the power to make things right but I refuse to believe that it must happen with the use of violence and the loss of life.

I have a feeling in my gut that there will eventually be a second revolutionary war, we need it, how else could we possibly ever eradicate the poisonous corruption that runs deep in the veins of our government.

Eradicating people is easy... it's what comes after that's hard.

The real question is: How do we create a corruption-proof system?

Originally posted by rebellender
perhaps true change will not happen until America divides into several countries. North, South, West and Jefferson. Then everybody just picks up and goes to what suits them. Clearly in these threads there is no majority, and Minorities get panty bunch syndrome.
Now here lies a solution. Ha!!!

I'll move to Jefferson in a heartbeat. If there was truly a free nation on earth - like one that Jefferson advocated - I would do all that I could to move there - the way other people used to come to America. It's disgusting what has become of this once great nation ...

Love Jefferson's tude ...

"I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."

The cattle are starting to die of hunger and the farmer wants you all off to market (Wars for isreal) so yes it's revoloution or death as far as i see it.

Those that talk about a peacefull resolution seem to forget we have been peacfull and that didn't get us anywhere and also flys in the face of history, cowards as i see it and are making excuses for inaction when its plane to see things won't change without blood being dropped.

A revolution starts and is won in the hearts and minds of the people.

"Life springs from death: and from the graves of patriot men and women spring living nations"

Padraig Pearse said this at the graveside of O'Donavan Rossa in front of 100,000 unfree Irishmen and women, a year before he organised the revolution which ultimately gave his fellow countrymen and women the freedom they had thought was too hard to possess and would cost too many lives.

Pearse knew he would not win the battle and he and his men would certainly end up in front of a firing squad.
He hoped this incredible sacrifice, would spark a patriotic Irish realization they must be free, and in this awakening, they could be united and unconquerable.

We have forgotten what it means to be free and what it costs to even glance at it.

"we know only one definition of freedom: it is Adam's (Tone's) definition, it is Jefferson's (Mitchel's) definition, it is Washington's (Rossa's) definition. Let no man blaspheme the cause that the dead generations of America (Ireland) served by giving it any other name or definition than their name and their definition"

Who in America, homeland of patriots, is willing to lay down their life for the lives of everyone else?
WHERE IS AMERICAS PADRAIG PEARSE?