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Am I the only one that believes America needs a second revolution?

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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 12:09 PM
reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy

continued from last post...

What I mean by this is got rid of super chains such as Walmart (the death of small businesses) and Target, allowed only statewide businesses to do business within their restricted state and perhaps a few neighboring states. Corporate giants destroy entrepreneurship by making it impossible for small businesses to compete with them.

I completely agree with getting rid of corporations. They have no place in capitalism, they are a byproduct of mercantilism and a tool of tyranny. I am taken aback by your thoughts on limiting businesses in states from trading freely and selling freely.

Why should a person in California be forced to only purchase products made in California or the few surrounding states? If a better, cheaper and more effective product is made in Delaware or Iowa why should they not be allowed to receive that benefit. Competition is what keeps a business honest, not government regulations. Removing competition in such a way removes the incentive for a company to pay honest wages, create a valuable product, charge the lowest possible price, research and create better technology among many other great things. Nothing you have stated so far would be more disastrous for the poor.

What we need is more competition, less restriction on people to create new businesses and the end of corporate person-hood along with the legal protections business owners are given through incorporating. Competition is something that we need more of not less of. If you want to see the results of less competition take a look outside at the world. The big corporations write the regulations that the government enforces. These regulations squeeze out competition and we are left with the evil that currently runs rampant in the business world. Competition is the check and balance of the free market.

The problem with our current economy (aside from banks and corporations systematically working to dismember it) is selfishness and greed; we're unwilling to help each other out in a time of hardship and yet we wonder why things are so bad. This "Me, Me, Me," ideology needs to be replaced by "Us, Us, Us;" how can a fractured nation possibly thrive? We need a united front.

I would agree except that this cannot be accomplished through force of government. People are free to think only of themselves and free to think of themselves as a part of something bigger. In a just society there is room for both to live and be happy. When a government uses force to accomplish good it is the same as saying that the ends will justify the means. this is simply never true, the ends do not justify the means and force does not win hearts and minds. If such a society is to exist it must be done through peoples own free will.

Aside from this, I propose a scaling tax, (1% for the very poor, up to 50% for the very rich) which would go towards social services and welfare to help round out the economy. The fact is that nobody needs over a few hundred thousand dollars a year to live a life of luxury. Why does someone who makes 5 million a year NEED all of that wealth? One can live more than comfortably on a fraction of 5 million dollars.

I propose no tax based on income to preserve incentive and preserve peoples right to spend their money how they see fit and keep the benefit of their efforts in life. I propose social services that can be entered into or refused freely untied from a government that is only force. I also propose that you nor anyone else has any right to tell me how much money is enough for my plans, dreams, family and wishes. Life is not about living comfortably but rather it's about living according to ones thoughts, desires, wishes and dreams and no person has the right to tell another person they have too much and need to share with others. As long as that wealth is acquired honestly and legally.

Limiting the amount of wealth any one person can earn requires a judgement to be made. who gets that power and why should they be trusted with it? What if I want to amount wealth in order to create a better world? Should governments have the sole power to amass wealth and redistribute it or should wealth be redistributed naturally through free choice and free will? Force is never the answer and I find it sad that so many are willing to use force against others in the name of good.

It should go without saying that often the wealthiest people are also the most giving and much good for the world has been donated by the wealthiest among us.

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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 12:28 PM
reply to post by GovtFlu

If want to quote me please use the quote button...

I said

we will no longer have a Democracy

Can you explain why you find this amusing?

posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:05 PM
reply to post by juveous

because even if you fix the corruption you didn't fix the stupidity. Plain and simple, America needs to get educated right and maybe then they will actually represent themselves better and run for office with a good conscience.

Seriously, if people can't think reasonably and logically what makes them think they are able to partake in a revolution. People need to get educated first from legit sources of information...MSM is not an educational nor a legit source just a sideshow...

posted on Apr, 12 2012 @ 02:48 PM
Okay if you read my long reply (too bad it was the last post on page 2 I think). You would see that we need to revolt but taking political/authortitative offices all at once. But like I was asking who wants to be the first martyr??

The Spanish-Civil war comes to mind. I talked to a swiss friend who lived in spain a little after the period. Basically the republican government was going no-where, so Franco who was stationed in Spanish Algiers was helped by the luftwaffe to fly his troops over and set up a fascist government which had most of the resources need. At first this sounded bad and any open minded person/idealist/poet/writer like Hemingway and H.G. Wells joined the opposition, the republican side which was made up of communits, anarchists, and republicans. Barcelona is interesting because it was the only successful anarchist state in existence and things actually worked for a couple of years, but because of the infighting, eventually all out war existed between the left-wing anarchists and communists/socialists for countrol of the the Republic while the Fascists were united under a strong command with strong supporters (Hitler and Mussolini). I was talking to my Swiss friend and he said although the war was extremely bloody with reprisals and attrocities on both sides Franco gained the upperhand because of it's strong unity. Once he had power he stayed in Spain as Fascist Dictator until his death when he reinstated the old constituional republic.

You could almost say WORD FOR WORD that FASCISM AND COMMUNISM are the same because once the dictator comes to power he is supposed to setup the countries "communist or republic" utopia when the time comes for it, only the dictators in Russia never ever gave up their power unline Franco.

So in all reality even tho Franco had Fascist ties he restart the country and by the 1960's it was a working republic again unlike what was there before.

So we need a strong general with a loyal army to back him to help him setup a working government, but once we eliminate the parasites and everything wrong and cut that black cancer off our government he MUST reinstate our original 1776 documents and constitution without the modern-day corruption we have now...

Anyways just something you should ponder over...

posted on Apr, 12 2012 @ 03:17 PM
you will get allot of crap from people for this OP. I think you have a grasp on reality though others will just say you are crazy. I won't. They are just sticking their heads in the sand. It is honest to consider this real threat without the knee jerk reaction of blind patriotism. Our humanity is a big factor here. It is not that the USA WAS a new dream. It simply embodied everything our world was trying to achieve in the past under one roof.

I wouldn't say we need a revolution, but I will say that unless things change back to the spirit of the US´s foundation, there will be one eventually. There is no way around it. We had too many civil liberties and great values to just try and change that all in one generation. It is insane. It may work for a while but eventually this will bite them in the ass.

It is unrealistic. We are not pre-Nazi Germany. We don't even think like them. That is the only climate in which this total control and total security can survive. A crazy dictatorship. It can not last forever without constant 9/11´s. Even they can't risk that every 10 years.

I hope enough of us realize this and stop this transformation of the US. If not a revolution is inevitable. I don't even think we will see it, but I know it will be terrible. I could see it dividing the union.

People who read and know this country's history can't see it and not find parallels with the reasons why the first one started and the current state of the union. They will have to erase our history immediately for a revolution NOT to happen if this all doesn't stop.

I am sorry. You can convince yourselves of whatever you want. I know people. This crap must end or they will end it or die trying. There really is not another way to put it. I hope we learn to respect our values again. I really do. You can't just say no, THESE are our values now. Security and blind obedience. NO, sorry. Not in the US. Not without a fight.

If they make it illegal to protest this stuff then people will eventually say to hell with talking. They want to make it illegal to think critically and with historical perspective in mind. That is dangerous. Take away civil forms of negotiation because they are inconvenient and people will just start killing their opponents. Sucks doesn't it? Yeah. and more so for those generations to follow ours.

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posted on Apr, 12 2012 @ 10:03 PM
"They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable--and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come." -Patrick Henry

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson

"Let the revolution begin" -Ron Paul

posted on Apr, 12 2012 @ 10:13 PM
reply to post by JohnCreed777

Nope, not the only one...........we need some serious changes, but the majority of Americans are still sleepers in the matrix and the rest haven't enough fire in their belly to revolt.

Good luck.
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posted on Apr, 12 2012 @ 10:28 PM
Well.............where do you suggest we all meet up? Should we start forming guerrilla gangs and stock piling large amounts of automatic rifles and handguns? Taking over State Parks and harboring in the mountains/forests? Slowly eliminate religious leaders and all their followers?

Or should we just wait for TPTB to spark something......?

Come on people, ideas!

posted on Apr, 13 2012 @ 01:04 PM
reply to post by holywar666

That is something best left outside the prying eyes of the public.

Second line.

posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 02:59 AM

The strategy and tactics of American Guerrilla warfare tend to focus around the use of a small mobile force competing against a larger one. The American Guerrilla will focus on organizing in small units depending on the support of the local population also taking advantage of terrain which would be more accommodating of smaller units of American Guerrillas.

Tactically the American Guerrilla would avoid any confrontation with large units of an enemy but seek and eliminate small groups of the enemy to minimize losses and tire the opposing force not just limiting their targets to the enemy but also enemy resources as they are main targets as well. All of that is to weaken the strength of an enemy and to cause the enemy to eventually be unable to enable war any longer and to force the enemy to withdraw. It is often misunderstood that the American Guerrilla may involve disguising as civilians to cause enemy troops to make it difficult for the enemy to tell the difference between friend from foe this is can be a primary feature of the American Guerrilla. This type of American Guerrilla war can be practiced anywhere there are places for American Guerrillas to disguise themselves where such advantage cannot be made of use by a larger and more conventional force. The tactical effort in American Guerrilla warfare is directed at the weaknesses of the enemy and at destroying their military resistance capacity and should be equal to a psychological effort to weaken and destroy the enemy at the same time. In American Guerrilla warfare more than in any other type of resistance the psychological activities should be simultaneous with the military activities in order to achieve freedom.

The enemy advances, and we retreat, the enemy camps, and we harass, the enemy sleeps, and we attack, the enemy retreats, we pursue.

We the Americans in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility provide for the common defense to promote the general welfare and secure the liberty of ourselves and our posterity establish

American Guerrillas.

"A country cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war."

Albert Einstein

posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 03:00 AM

Command Posts

Since the command posts will be the nerve center of the American Guerrillas, it is a highly-sought enemy target but will be the empty foreclosed homes owned by the enemy. Command posts have functional requirements which result in creating easily identifiable signatures such as:

Concentration of vehicles.

Heavy traffic.

Fences surrounding the site.

Defensive weapon positions in the command post.

Upside down American Flag


Communications are the lifeblood of an American Guerrilla command post. Command posts sited to take advantage of existing roads and the internet to spread their message.


Because of the characteristics of American Guerrilla warfare planning is easy. Since there is much time and many foreclosed homes are available to make into command posts sites can be quickly entered, evacuated, and defended. The American Guerrillas will not make plans for concealment. Prior to entering the area, the American Guerrilla will become familiar with the terrain pattern through a careful study and documentation. The American Guerrilla should also be fully acquainted with the tactical plan.


The American Guerrilla will occupy the foreclosed homes that the enemy has taken as a command post and bring a laptop with internet access, weapons for offensive and defensive tactics, American Flag to the command post, and five gallons of gasoline so other American Guerrillas will know that a new command post has been created.


Although evacuation is the last thing an American Guerrilla will want the American Guerrilla must remember that the fight is for removal of an illegal government but if necessary use the five gallons of gasoline and destroy the old command post as another can be easily found.

posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 03:00 AM

In order to obtain the maximum results from the psychological

operations in American Guerrilla warfare every combatant should be as highly

motivated to carry out his constitutional rights face to face as he is an American Guerilla. This

means that the political awareness of the American Guerrilla must be known to the enemy and the determination of obtaining change will have to be as serious as his ability to fight.

Such a political awareness and motivation are obtained through the study of political actions made by the enemy and an instruction for the American Guerrilla is to study political events. Group discussions raise the spirit and improve the unity of thought of the American Guerrillas.

The desired result is an American Guerrilla who can persuasively justify his actions when he comes into contact with any member of the people of America, especially his fellow American Guerrillas. This means that every American Guerrilla will be have to be persuasive in his face-to-face communication also the American Guerilla should be able to give five or ten logical reasons why an action took place.

Know Your Surroundings

Know the people, know every city, road, field. Your task as an American Guerrilla Combatant is to become an expert on your area. If you do not know precisely where you will be operating, study the general area. Read the map like a book: Study it every night before sleep and redraw it from memory every morning until you understand its patterns intuitively. Develop a mental model of your area, a framework in which to fit every new piece of knowledge you acquire. Study hand notes that you have made.

Diagnose The Problems

Once you know your area and the Americans within the area, you can begin to diagnose the problem.

;“Who are the enemy authorities“?

;“What drives them“?
;“What makes enemy leaders tick“?

fundamentally the goal of an American Guerrilla is to get support from the Americans of your agenda. This means you need to know your real enemy the illegal government. The enemy is adaptive, resourceful, and is control of the region where you will be operating.

Fight the Enemy Strategy not Enemy Forces.

At this stage if things are proceeding well the enemy will go to the offensive. Because you have created a situation so dangerous to the enemy by threatening to displace them from their environment that they have to attack you and use mainstream media to get the population to get back into the game. Which is normal in America it depends on whether you have successfully helped the population and made them know that the oppression and tyranny will cease once the battle is won before they pick their sides. At this point the tendency is to go for the jugular and seek to destroy the enemies forces in open battle. This is not the best choice with American Guerrilla warfare because provoking major combat usually plays into the enemies hands by undermining the Americans confidence and American Guerrilla warfare is meant to use small groups. Instead attack the enemies strategy. If the enemy is seeking to recapture the allegiance of a segment of the Americans, then locate the mainstream media outlets and remove those enemies.

posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 03:01 AM

Ambush is a sudden or surprise attack from a concealed position upon a moving or temporarily hated

enemy force. Ambush is executed to reduce the enemies combat effectiveness by harassment or destruction.

When ambushes are staged more frequently against all types of enemy targets, the enemy tends to be
more reluctant to send combat patrols in convoys or in a small group Consequently, they loss their aggressiveness and become more defensive minded. The loss of men and equipment has a critical effect on the part of the enemy. The interference with and the ultimate destruction of hostile reconnaissance and combat patrols will result in the accomplishment of the American Guerrilla Ambush Patrol mission, thus depriving the enemy of valuable intelligence information so necessary to effectively combat the American Guerrillas.


Two principles of American Guerrilla ambush:


the primary function of the security elements is to protect the rear and flanks of

the assault element.


The force that captures or destroys the enemy. The American Guerrilla Ambush Patrols will

place them selves with assault element at the point where his first shot at the head of the enemy
column signifies to the to open fire and American Guerrilla tactics will be used for the ambush. After the job has been completed, The American Guerrillas start movement to a nearby rallying point and move as fast as possible.

These are factors needed to make an ambush successful that and are considered essential:

; patience

;a good plan that is well-rehearsed
;prior knowledge of the enemy

The most important factors to consider is the selection of ambush site is influenced by the


; Mission - the ambush site should be ideally suited for the conduct of a single mission, or

a series of action.

; Enemy - one should consider the probable size, strength, or composition of the hostile

force to be ambushed. One must also know the likely combat formations the enemy

uses and his reinforcement capabilities.

; Terrain - the ambush site should be on a vantage point that provides clear fields of fire
and observation, good cover and concealment, and good routes of withdrawals.


On the arrival of the enemy force at the ambush site, the American Guerrilla Ambush Patrol delivers
a heavy volume of fire that should be able to annihilate them. The volume of fire delivered should not allow the enemy to fire back and maneuver his forces in an attempt to over run the American Guerrilla Ambush Patrol positions. All point of entry and escape should be fully covered by automatic weapons fire. This should prevent the enemy from making retaliatory moves against the American Guerrilla Ambush Patrol or from the enemy escaping from the scene with minimum casualty toll. Then as rapidly and quietly as possible the American Guerrilla Ambush Patrol withdraws to pre-designated rally points for re-organization. If the enemy is not totally annihilated then care must be taken that the withdrawing of American Guerrilla Ambush Party should have adequate rear security to impede or harass enemy reaction forces to make a successful pursuit. Escape from the ambush site can best be accomplished by breaking down the whole American Guerrilla Ambush patrol into two-man teams and regroup at the rally point.

posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 03:02 AM

Armed American Guerrilla Propagandist includes every act carried out for the good

impression that the Armed American Guerrilla causes will result in positive attitudes in the

population. It will not include forced indoctrination. Armed propaganda improves the behavior of the population toward them, and it is not achieved by force. This means that a Armed American Guerrilla in an area will not give the impression that arms are their strength over the American people but rather show that they are the strength of the American people against the enemy that causes oppression. This is achieved through a close identification with the people.
hanging up weapons and working together with them in providing basic healthcare, gardens, educating political awareness, and etcetera. If the population in the area are interested about basic weapons you should give them an unloaded weapon and let them touch it, see it, and describe it in a rudimentary manner and how it operates, and describing how the weapons will serve the people to win their freedom and participating in the requests by the American people as already stated providing basic healthcare, gardens, educating political awareness, and etcetera will help achieve this goal. All these acts will be done as their goal is the creation of an identification with the American people and the Armed American Guerrillas that will carry the weapons so that the population feels that the weapons are indirectly their weapon to protect them and help them in and protect struggle against an enemy that causes oppression. Implicit fear always accompanies weapons since the American people are aware that they can be used against them but as long as you don't explicitly force the American people to comply positive attitudes can be achieved with respect to the presence of Armed American Guerrillas within the area.


Frequently a misunderstanding will exist with the Armed American Guerrilla Propagandist which will be that this is tactic is not helpful to the American people but the Armed American Guerrilla Propagandist should know well the principles and methods of this tactic. The objective of this section is to give the American Guerrilla an understanding of the Armed American Guerrilla Propagandist and how these ideologies should be used and how they will be able to be applied in American Guerrilla warfare.

Close Identification with the People

Armed American Guerrilla Propagandist includes all acts carried out by an Armed American Guerrilla, whose results improve the attitude of the people toward this force, and it

does not include forced indoctrination as it will not be needed. This is carried out by a close
identification with the people on any occasion.

For example:

Putting aside weapons and working side by side with the

American people. When working with the American people, the American Guerrillas can participate in activities such as many hands doing activities to help the community.

Participating in the tasks of the people, they can establish a strong tie between them and the Armed American Guerrillas and at the same time a popular support for our movement is generated. Each Armed American Guerrilla should be respectful and courteous with the American people. In addition the Armed American Guerrilla should move with care and always be well prepared to fight if necessary. The Armed American Guerrilla should not always see all the people as enemies with suspicions or hostility. Even in war, it is possible to smile, laugh, or greet people. Truly that is the cause of a revolutionary base, the reason why we are

struggling is American people and our enemy. We must be respectful to American people the on all occasions that present themselves. In places and situations wherever possible the Armed American Guerrillas can explain the operation of weapons to the youths and young men. They can show them an unloaded rifle so that they will learn to load it and unload it at their use and aiming at imaginary targets they are potential recruits for our forces.

The Armed American Guerrillas should always be prepared with simple slogans in order

to explain to the people whether in an intentional form or by chance the
reason for the weapons.

"The weapons will be for winning freedom; they are for you."

"With weapons we can impose demands such as hospitals,

schools, better roads, and social services for the Americans, for


"Our weapons are in truth the weapons of the Americans yours."

"With weapons we can change the enemy
and return to the Americans to a true democracy so that we may prosper."

All of this should be designed to create an identification of the American people

with the weapons and the Armed American Guerrillas who carry them.

Finally, we should make the people know that we are thinking of them and that the weapons are
the for the Americans

posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 03:02 AM

The Armed American Propagandist Team combine political awareness building

with Armed American Guerrilla Propagandist, which will be carried out by carefully selected American

Guerrillas with experience in combat and personal persuasion

within the population. The selection of an Armed American Guerrilla Propagandist Team is more

important than the training because we cannot train Armed American Guerrilla Teams to show

the sensations of strong enthusiasm, devotion, great warmth, and intensity of emotion which is essential

for person to person persuasion more important is selecting individuals who are intellectually developed.

An Armed American Propagandist Team includes small groups:

The theme is to be able to take surroundings and conversations into mind and also thoroughly comprehend these things

rapidly so the Armed American Propagandist Teams can need to be able react more intelligently to unforeseen situations.

In addition to the combination as Armed American Guerrilla Propagandist Team each

member should be well prepared to carry out permanent person
to person communication face to face.


In a psychological operation in Armed American Guerrilla warfare. The American Guerrillas will be able too obtain maximum psychological results from an American.

This section is to inform the Armed American Guerrilla as to what Armed Propagandist
Teams are in the environment of American Guerrilla warfare.

Combination: Political Awareness and Armed American Guerrilla Propaganda

The leader of the Armed American Propagandist Team should be

the American Guerrilla who is the most motivated politically and the most effective in face to face

persuasion. The position should be for who is best qualified for communication with

the American people. The source of basic recruitment for an American Guerrilla will be for the

social groups that share the American Guerrillas political goals a requirement for recruiting them will be two weeks physical training and two weeks of how to use the arms they will bear.
The selection of the personnel is important. The political awareness building capabilities and the capabilities of persuasion will be shown in the training.

Techniques of Persuasion in Talks or Speeches:

Be Simple and Concise. You should avoid the use of difficult

words or expressions and prefer popular words and expressions.
In dealing with a person

you should make use of concise language avoiding complicated words.

It is important to remember that we use simple words and expressions to make

our people understand the reason for our struggle and not to
show off our knowledge.

Use Lively and Realistic Examples. Avoid abstract concepts.

Use Gestures to Communicate. Communication, in addition to

being verbal, you can use physical gestures such as using our hands,

expressively back movements, facial expressions, and the focusing of

our look and other aspects of body language projecting the help defining the
individual personality in the message.

Use the appropriate tone of voice. If on addressing the American

people if you talk about happiness a happy tone should be used.

If you talk of something sad the tone of the voice should be

one of sadness. On talking of a heroic or brave act the voice
should be enthusiastic

Above all be natural imitation of others should be avoided as it may be considered mocking.

Expressions or gestures of the eyes, or face, the tone and strength of

the voice, and the use of the appropriate words greatly affect the face to face
persuasion of the people.

Eyes and Ears Within the Population

The amount of information for intelligence that will be generated by

the deployment of the Armed American Guerrilla Propagandist Teams will allow us to cover a

large area with disguised American Guerrillas, who will become the eyes and ears of our

movement within the population. The combined reports of an Armed American Guerrilla Propagandist Team will provide us with exact details on the enemy activities.

The intelligence information obtained by the Armed American Guerrilla Propaganda

Teams should be reported to the American Guerrillas. However, it is necessary to

emphasize that the first mission of the Armed American Guerrilla Propagandist Teams is to carry

out psychological operations and to obtain data for intelligence. Any intelligence report will be made through the outside contact of the American Guerrilla framework in order not to compromise the population. The Armed American Guerrilla Propagandist Teams are able to do what other American Guerrillas cannot do, determine and describe the development or deterioration of the popular support and the sympathy or hostility that the people feel
toward our Armed American Guerrillas. The Armed American Guerrilla Propagandist Team in addition to being very effective psychologically it a

posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 03:03 AM

The goal of any interrogation is to obtain useful and reliable information in a minimum amount of time. The goal of any enemy is to deceive or hinder any attempts of the American Guerrilla to get information. The main factor in all interrogation situations are control. This allows to cause or change certain types of enemy behavior by using physical or psychological means to get compliance. Compliance may be voluntary or involuntary. Control can rarely be established without control of the environment. By controlling the physical environment of the enemy the American Guerrilla will be able to control his psychological state of mind.

Capture & Detainment

The manner and timing of arrest can also contribute substantially to the American Guerrillas purpose and should be planned to achieve surprise and the maximum amount of fear. Therefore be Detainment should occur at a moment when the enemy least expects it and when the mental and physical resistance of the enemy is at its lowest. The best time at which to make a detainment is in the early hours of the morning. When detained at this time, most subjects experience intense feelings of shock, insecurity, and psychological stress and for the most part have great difficulty adjusting to the situation. As to the manner of the detainment, it is very important that the American Guerrillas behave in such a manner as to impress the subject with their efficiency. The enemy should be rudely awakened and immediately blindfolded and handcuffed and should remain so during the entire processing. Any time the subject is moved for any reason, he should be blindfolded and handcuffed. The enemy should be required to comply immediately and precisely with all instructions from the American Guerrilla. Completely stripped and told be quiet. The enemy should be made to believe that he has been forsaken. Throughout his detention the enemy must be convinced that his interrogator controls his ultimate destiny and that his absolute cooperation is necessary for survival. A person's sense of identity depends upon the continuity in his surroundings, habits, appearance, relations with

others, etc. The purpose of the detention should be to enhance the feelings of the enemy being cut off from the known and of being plunged into the unfamiliar.
The more complete place of confinement eliminates sensory stimuli more rapidly and deeply the enemy. Results produced only after weeks or months of imprisonment can be duplicated in hours or days in a Detainment center which has no light or weak artificial light which never varies and also has to be soundproofed in which odors are eliminated.

Deprivation of Sensory Stimuli

Through Solitary Confinement. Complete isolation acts on most as a powerful stressful situation. Most commonly effects produced by isolation are superstition, intense love of any other living thing, perceiving inanimate objects as alive, hallucinations, and delusions. This is because the inner factors in the mind tend to be projected outward, that some of the mind's activity which is usually reality-bound now becomes free to turn to fantasy and ultimately to hallucination and delusion.

Threats and Fear

The threat of forcing an enemy to behave in the desired manner to the American Guerrilla usually weakens or destroys resistance effectively. The threat to inflict pain can trigger fears more damaging than the immediate sensation of pain. In fact, most people underestimate their capacity to withstand pain. In general, direct physical brutality creates only resentment, hostility, and further defiance. The same principle holds for other fears: The prolonged interrogation to the enemy, a strong fear of anything vague or unknown may cause the enemy to defend. It is not enough that a enemy should placed under the tension of fear; he must also perceive or recognize an acceptable escape route. In brief, the threat is like all other acts of forcing another to behave in a certain manner in being most effective when so used as to foster a defensive reaction to unaccepted impulses and when joined with a suggested way out of the situation, a rationalization acceptable to the enemy. The effectiveness of a threat depends on the personality of the subject, whether he believes the American Guerrilla can and will carry out the threat and on what he believes to be the reason for the threat. A threat should be delivered coldly, not shouted in anger, or made in response to the own expressions of hostility of the enemy. The threat of death has been found to be worse than useless. The principal reason, for this, is that it often induces sheer hopelessness; the enemy will feel that he is as likely to be condemned after compliance as before. Some enemies recognize that the threat is a bluff and that silencing them forever would defeat the American Guerrillas purpose. If a subject refuses to comply after a threat has been m

posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 03:17 PM

Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by frazzle

ok I will be king, I impose I dont have to pay taxes, I impose that anything I do is above all laws I impose that I can take 75% of all wealth of my district, I impose that I get first dibbs on all virgins of the land. I impose I can war with who I wish to challenge other districts for power, I impose that I get what I want and hand out what everybody else gets.

I impose the Laws of King Henry the 8th, his son Edward and Bloody Mary.
after all fair is fair right.

Ron Paul equals anarchy he has shown his colors, the world has shown its inability to live peacefully
Have a Nice Day
edit on 9-4-2012 by rebellender because: (no reason given)

That was a bit extreme, I think what he was saying was you should be as free as you wish to be so long as it doesn't infringe on mine or anyone else's freedoms. Go live within that paradigm, my lord.

posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 03:29 PM

Originally posted by Xtrozero
Those that want war have nothing to lose and are not willing to work for a better life. I see this as a new computer game mentality where you can just reset a computer game if you do not like how it is going, and they want to reset life in some way.

I thought the founding fathers intended there to be a reset button.

Thomas Jefferson-

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."

Brutally honest and I don't agree with all said, but I don't believe they played Grand Theft Auto
during the French Revolution and I highly doubt Lenin had a Wii.

posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:11 PM

Originally posted by DelegateZero88

Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by frazzle

ok I will be king, I impose I dont have to pay taxes, I impose that anything I do is above all laws I impose that I can take 75% of all wealth of my district, I impose that I get first dibbs on all virgins of the land. I impose I can war with who I wish to challenge other districts for power, I impose that I get what I want and hand out what everybody else gets.

I impose the Laws of King Henry the 8th, his son Edward and Bloody Mary.
after all fair is fair right.

Ron Paul equals anarchy he has shown his colors, the world has shown its inability to live peacefully
Have a Nice Day
edit on 9-4-2012 by rebellender because: (no reason given)

That was a bit extreme, I think what he was saying was you should be as free as you wish to be so long as it doesn't infringe on mine or anyone else's freedoms. Go live within that paradigm, my lord.

what governing body decides how far I go?
or someone else that does nothing, should get ?
There is no civil anarchy
I am too old the be a Commie

ETA: almost didnt remember this post

edit on 16-8-2012 by rebellender because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:42 PM
It wont work the ones running the country will make millions will the common man will die just as in the civil war sure there were changes in some ways but the basic government was still there afterwards. If you want change run for office get involved march holler yell and anything else you can think of other than picking up a gun to kill your own people.

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