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Originally posted by pigsy2400
With me being british, my in-depth knowledge of American history is limited, of which I am sure I will be corrected.
Isn't the ownership of a gun, the right of every american in the constitution.
I thought that this was in the constitution due to the civil war between the americans and the english, so that americans could defend their homes against the british at that time.
For a law that was in place hundreds of years ago, it seems strange to non-americans that such an old outdated law still be hotly debated and defended.
For Example, in England it is still law that - ''All males over the age of 14 must carry out two hours a day of longbow practice.'' I would hazard a guess that less than 1% of the population own a longbow, letalone do that.
Our armies are made up of our citizens,
who would turn their guns on the government.
Originally posted by BRIGHT STAR
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff
Maybe you have forgotten It was firearms and the United States that saved your (__*__) from the Japanese.
Originally posted by Germanicus
If the State has guns then the People should have guns.
Im curious why if guns are such a great deterrent to violent crime the US still has such a high rate?
You would be one of the most heavily armed civilian populations yet you are all more fearful about crime and home invasions than the rest of the world (civilised Western world)
And as the article you linked stated different things count as crimes in different places, Im guessing if everyone who went to the emergency room in the US as a result of violence was listed in the figures and not just reported crimes it would tell a different story.
Wouldnt a can of mace be just as good as a gun?
surely for a gun to be a deterrent the perp would need to know you have it, but then how often would you actually get the chance to pull it out prior to knowing you needed to?
Unless you walk around with it in your hand ready to fire the gun as safety/deterrent argument is BS
Despite all evidence and common sense Americans still delude themselves into thinking guns make them safer.
Just admit you like guns and would want one even if you knew no criminals had them
Care to elaborate on how American citizens having guns saved our (__*__) from anyone?
Where not talking about the army or police force, were talking about the average American in the streets and suburbs of American cities.
Seriously a people that let a man like GW Bush (a man who would not have been trusted with a pair of scissors let alone a country in anywhere else) become Pres TWICE shouldnt be given the chance to make any decisions for themselves as far as Im concerned
Hi American here, not really here for the debate. But read the first page or two and think this is an interesting thread.
I will try to answer any questions if you want to ask.
Firearms are only a deterrent to crime if the perpetrator feels there is a likely hood that he/she may be shot. One of the things many non US citizens fail to take into account is that if a crime is stopped by someone with a firearm, they no longer have the legal justification to shoot the alleged perp. Quite often criminals just run away in search of easier targets.
In the United States, areas that have less strict "gun laws" DO tend to have much lower crime rates than those areas with outright bans, or even very strict "gun laws".
My assertion is that legal firearm sales, and legal firearm ownership, are only a very small factor in overall violence rates here in the US.
That is only an assumption on your part. And a false on at that. I haven't locked my automobiles, or home, in over 25 years. There are many here that can make similar claims. Can you honestly make a claim like that?
You obviously don't understand the way crime stats are collected here in the US. If a doctor suspects a wound is caused by violence, it IS his/her LEGAL OBLIGATION to report that injury to the police.
It's hard to believe you are so naive as to ask such a stupid question, but I'll answer it anyway: Considering the range of a can of mace, and the range of a firearm, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
surely for a gun to be a deterrent the perp would need to know you have it, but then how often would you actually get the chance to pull it out prior to knowing you needed to?
Another silly question, but: More often than you obviously think.
Unless you walk around with it in your hand ready to fire the gun as safety/deterrent argument is BS
That is only another improper assumption on your part.
There we have a comment that is only meant to insult Americans. Why am I not surprised?
Sadly they ask for their right to kill their countrymen, even their government.
You're pretty damn good at making false assumptions. I don't currently own any firearms, nor am I currently interested in purchasing any.
Considering Eurostat shows that the United Kingdom has the highest violent crime rate in the entire UNITED STATES of EUROPE, why do you obviously feel that firearms are the primary CAUSE of violent crime?
Though I don't feel that the statement you were responding to is accurate, the United States did, indeed, help prevent a Japanese invasion of Australia.
We are, indeed, talking about the average American in the streets, suburbs, and cities. Those are the very people that make up our armed forces, and police forces.
Text Statements like that make it very obvious that your true intention regarding this thread has more to do with deriding Americans, than it does with serious concerns regarding firearm ownership.