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Maybe we should all go around with with explosive belts/suicide vests strapped to us, ya know, just in case we chance across a terrorist who has one?
That's basically the logic used
So it's hard to say if guns are helping peace in this situation.
Originally posted by Sly1one
reply to post by RyanFromCan
When I say social government I don't mean socialism...I mean any gdm form of governance that allows other to directly or indirectly dictate what I can and cannot do based of THEIR FEARS...
I didn't call anyone a communist and addressed no partisan issues, I don't believe in the splitting of the brain and labeling your thoughts left or right, blue or red, democracy or communist...that is for people who believe in those things, I DONT.
Basically my post was there to tell you and the lot like you that think you have "the social" world figured out enough to tell ME how I should and shouldn't live...if you admit you don't then take your rhetoric to someone who cares.
The asinine implications you tried to make and tie me in with people who would shoot their own friend jumping in their car because they are as you put it "afraid of their own shadow" is very weak and has no ground to stand on.
I could just as easily fire back and say its people like you afraid of your own shadow wanting to pass laws to limit my ability to protect myself based off your WAY OFF perception that I will kill my friend if he jumps into my car...you are no less afraid then you are accusing me and other gun owners of being. We could do that silly dance all day back and forth and get no where if you wish.
Bottom line is, who the hell are you or anyone else or any NUMBER of other people to tell ME how I CAN and CANNOT protect myself? WHO are YOU to drape your world view over the top of mine? The ONLY people who believe they have the right to do so are those that I labeled in my previous post...self righteous, holier than thou, arrogant, ignorant, Utopian fools...
I explained why I am isolationist and independence oriented in my views because I don't think I have the right to tell you to NOT OWN A GUN...by all mean don't own a gun, that is your very right to make that choice for yourself and your family but that my friend is where it ends, you and no army has the right to intervene in my life, without just cause and I'm sorry but being AFRAID of what I might do with a gun isn't just cause...that is a preemptive judgement call that implies you can read the damn future...and last I checked we don't believe in that do we? Once we start passing preemptive laws we end with preemptive incarcerations based on the likelihoods and possibilities of what we MIGHT do based on fear and paranoia fueled by horrible statistics. In that world you might end up locked up before I do...
Originally posted by Samuelis
I would feel much more secure without gun's being owned by the general Australian public. Some of these people shouldn't be allowed a drivers licence, let alone a gun. to guns to fist'sedit on 9-4-2012 by Samuelis because: (no reason given)
they just don't seem to get the fact that we don't care about what they do over the pond, that's their business.
Though I know you were an exception, I certainly didn't get that impression from this thread.
Originally posted by hypervigilant
The guy damned sure hadn't gotten his gun legally, most criminals don't or can't buy a firearm of any kind legally yet they get them and will use them illegally.
Originally posted by hypervigilant
Besides I can't recall how many I have or where exactly every one of them are but I know where enough of them are that I'm never more than a few steps from one or more of them....
The guy was on the floor convulsing but still had his gun in his hand..Afraid that the guy might pull the trigger and shoot an employ or customer my uncle carefully aimed and administered the coup de grace with a round to his head...