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Topic started on 8-4-2012 @ 11:00 PM by m.red
i was watching the movie apollo 13 when i came upon a couple questions that didnt make sence to me. it involved communications from the astronauts and the space station on earth.

1.how do astronauts communicate with earth?
a. a satellite from earth sends radio signals to the space craft on the moon.

2.how far is the moon?
a.

The distance between the Moon and the Earth varies from around 356,400 km to 406,700 km at the extreme perigees (closest) and apogees (farthest). On 19 March 2011, it was closer to the Earth while at full phase than it has been since 1993.[93] Reported as a "super moon", this closest point coincides within an hour of a full moon, and it thus appeared 30 percent brighter, and 14 percent larger than when at its greatest distance.[94][95][96]

3.if certian radio waves can travel at the speed of light, how fast is light?
a.

The speed of light in vacuum, usually denoted by c, is a universal physical constant important in many areas of physics. Its value is 299,792,458 metres per second, a figure that is exact since the length of the metre is defined from this constant and the international standard for time.[1] In imperial units this speed is approximately 186,282 miles per second.

Exact values - Metres per second 299,792,458 Planck units 1
Approximate values - kilometres per second 300,000 kilometres per hour 1,080 million
miles per second 186,000 miles per hour 671 million
astronomical units per day 173

so if the earth is (lets go with the shorter side to favor the skeptics) 350,000 km from earth. and the fastest signal travels at 300,000 km/s (pic in link has conversions for speed), it should take 2 seconds delay if not a bit more.
i know 2 seconds is not alot but in a conversation that distance, i dont see a delay longer than someone talking to someone else on the other side of the world.

i guess my question is how are we sending information to the moon faster than the speed of light?

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reply posted on 8-4-2012 @ 11:07 PM by chr0naut

2 seconds delay is as live as they can get it.

I suppose you can have a delayed conversation.

I know that this is supposed to be a secret but.... The movie Apollo 11 wasn't real It was all actors and effects and movie sets!

"Tom Hanks in Spaaaaacceee....."
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reply posted on 8-4-2012 @ 11:15 PM by m.red

lol i know its not real, its just another example of evidence i found that seemed to contradict the offical story. witch is why i have put it out for anyone who didnt know or is refusing to believe the lies without common sence. all we have to do is ask questions and look for the answers to the questions to see what they call truth is not what it appears to be.

the delay i am talking about is not just a brief 2 sec. in a conversation with 2 or 3 words a sec it becomes clear how impossible it is to continue a conversation that quick over that distance. count to 1 mississippi 2 mississippi thats how long in reality this reality the fastest thing can travel and how long it should take for the other partie to respond.
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reply posted on 8-4-2012 @ 11:18 PM by NuminousCosmos

Are you referring to the movie Apollo 13? If so, you know that the movie is fictionalized account?

When you make a call on Earth and it gets sent to a microwave relay, up to a satellite in Clarke Orbit, back down to the ground and through an interchange; all at the speed of light. When I call someone in Australia, I can hear a slight pause between exchanges. The speed of light is as fast as it gets.

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reply posted on 8-4-2012 @ 11:26 PM by m.red

my mistake yes apollo 13. i know it was just a movie but it got me thinking about the real space landings. and the first is apollo 11 witch you can see there is no pause when there should be to make what they claim to be true.
math says it takes 2 seconds and thats all im asking people to do is tell me why the first mission to the moon was in comunication with each other faster than the speed of light.
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reply posted on 8-4-2012 @ 11:52 PM by m.red

read the post. i think that because they are sending and recieving messages faster than we can really send them.

reply posted on 8-4-2012 @ 11:59 PM by m.red

and for 1 apollo 13 was a movie so i dont care witch satellite they had but here is your satellite for apollo 11.
go do some research.

reply posted on 9-4-2012 @ 12:03 AM by NuminousCosmos

Early Bird is still operational? Wow, that is amazing engineering!

You managed to teach me something, good job!

reply posted on 9-4-2012 @ 12:06 AM by m.red

wow buddy. i suggest you read the full thing.

although it was briefly activated in June of that year to serve the Apollo 11 flight when the Atlantic Intelsat satellite failed.

reply posted on 9-4-2012 @ 12:13 AM by spoor
Originally posted by m.red
wow buddy. i suggest you read the full thing.

I suggest you do some research on what it was used for

NASA had to resort to using undersea cable telephone circuits to bring Apollo's communications to NASA during the mission

en.wikipedia.org...

It was NOT used to communicate with Apollo 11, it was used to bring Apollo 11's communications from various earth stations to NASA.

Unless you somehow think the underseas telephone circuits were extended to Apollo 11....
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