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Americans Bombed Pearl Harbor With Airplanes Designed To Look Japanese

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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 12:50 AM
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Thing is, the same as every other piece of crap thread you right, you never provide evidence, just conjecture and wild theory.

I would have more evidence if I claimed I was made out of Ice Cream and my real name was Wobblybob III, King of the Sugary treats




posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by CynicalWabbit
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OK Blocula you're 100% correct the US bombed Pearl Harbor so how did the government keep the 2,791 men on the USS Lexington and the 2,217 men on the Enterprise from telling anyone about painting the planes to make them look Japanese or about attacking Pearl Harbor
Maybe you remote viewed the answer to this question.


SO WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE
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"my generation questioned nothing,your generation questions everything"

That was spoken by a ww-2 veteran just a few years ago...

And whats your evidence that japan attacked pearl harbor?...because tptb said so?

Earlier today i watched a documentary about the attack on pearl harbor and they showed a lot of footage of japanese ships that were shown supposedly sailing to pearl harbor and there was footage of japanese airplanes that were shown taking off from japanese aircraft carriers that were supposedly sailing in the area of pearl harbor and those airplanes were shown supposedly flying to pearl harbor...

But i noticed a big problem,actually a very huge problem,i saw nothing but japanese ships and japanese airplanes,surrounded by open sea and open sky,thats it...

I do not know where those japanese ships really were and i do not know where those japanese planes were really flying to,those ships could have been anywhere and those airplanes could have been flying to anywhere...

The only way i knew those japanese ships were near pearl harbor and the only way i knew those japanese airplanes were flying off to attack pearl harbor,is because thats what the narrator was telling me...

Then they showed japanese airplanes supposedly bombing pearl harbor and i saw footage of japanese airplanes in the sky and then there was a quick edit and the scene cut to show a bomb explode on an american aircraft carrier and they kept showing the same things over and over,japanese airplanes in the sky,cut,american ships explode,japanese airplanes in the sky,cut,american ships explode and i wanted to explode and yell at the tv and tell the narrator hes wrong and hes lying...

Not once during that entire documentary,did they show a japanese airplane bombing and pearl harbor exploding in the same frame...

And even if they did,it wouldnt matter,because the american high command built or bought the japanese planes that attacked and bombed pearl harbor...

edit on 17-4-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 01:56 AM
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Bloc...this topic is way out there. The proof of the 10's of Thousands of Japanese who were on this mission and returned to Japan victorious telling all...their Families, Friends...etc....doesn't give your arguement any possibility of having a shred of truth.

What I would love to know is WHY you would start THIS topic in particular as it is complete nonsence and so easily disproved? Split Infinity



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by blocula

No they were not out of range,those american pby airplanes were "long range" patrol planes and they would have been easily able to have flown out from their aleutian islands air bases and spotted the japanese fleet that was sailing in the "northern" part of the pacific...

The pby's could have been used to "locate" the japanese fleet and then radio in their coordinates,not to bomb them and those pby's had a range of around 2,500 miles...

But it doesnt matter anyways,because the japanese naval fleet was never really out there...

The american pby's were ordered grounded,so their pilots wouldnt be able to see the conveniently missing from pearl harbor american aircraft carriers lexington and enterprise,that were being used to launch the american built or bought japanese planes that attacked and bombed pearl harbor...

Those airplanes were being flown by coerced,threatened and brainwashed japanese americans and hawaiians and maybe even americans,who faces would have been mostly hidden from view,while wearing head gear and goggles,as they flew in,swooped down and dropped their bombs,

Dragging enraged americans straight into the bloody steel jaws of another world wide war machine...
edit on 16-4-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)


One, small problem. The US didn't have any long-range PBYs in the Aleutians at that time. They had some in Pearl Harbour, but a lot of those were concentrating on the likely approaches to the west and south-west before the attack and a lot were on fire after the attack. As for the rest of your post, it's based on what again, other than your imagination?
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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by blocula
"my generation questioned nothing,your generation questions everything"

That was spoken by a ww-2 veteran just a few years ago...

And whats your evidence that japan attacked pearl harbor?...because tptb said so?

Earlier today i watched a documentary about the attack on pearl harbor and they showed a lot of footage of japanese ships that were shown supposedly sailing to pearl harbor and there was footage of japanese airplanes that were shown taking off from japanese aircraft carriers that were supposedly sailing in the area of pearl harbor and those airplanes were shown supposedly flying to pearl harbor...

But i noticed a big problem,actually a very huge problem,i saw nothing but japanese ships and japanese airplanes,surrounded by open sea and open sky,thats it...

I do not know where those japanese ships really were and i do not know where those japanese planes were really flying to,those ships could have been anywhere and those airplanes could have been flying to anywhere...

The only way i knew those japanese ships were near pearl harbor and the only way i knew those japanese airplanes were flying off to attack pearl harbor,is because thats what the narrator was telling me...

Then they showed japanese airplanes supposedly bombing pearl harbor and i saw footage of japanese airplanes in the sky and then there was a quick edit and the scene cut to show a bomb explode on an american aircraft carrier and they kept showing the same things over and over,japanese airplanes in the sky,cut,american ships explode,japanese airplanes in the sky,cut,american ships explode and i wanted to explode and yell at the tv and tell the narrator hes wrong and hes lying...

Not once during that entire documentary,did they show a japanese airplane bombing and pearl harbor exploding in the same frame...

And even if they did,it wouldnt matter,because the american high command built or bought the japanese planes that attacked and bombed pearl harbor...

edit on 17-4-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)


I don't know what you were watching but it couldn't have been very good, because there were no US carriers in Pearl Harbour. As for the rest of your post, dear god almighty, is that what you really believe? What about the accounts of the people on the ground there? The accounts of the Japanese pilots afterwards? The proof, in terms of the debris from Japanese fighters and bombers all over the islands. Surely, if Japanese planes were used with Japanese engines, firing Japanese bullets and dropping Japanese bombs and manned by Japanese pilots (the corpses of whom were recovered) at the same time that a Japanese declaration of war was being handed over in Washington, that might just hint at a Japanese attack?
As for the footage of the Japanese carriers, what else were you expecting, a giant English-language sign in the sky saying "Pearl Harbour this way"?
You're painting pictures in the air again. And frankly everyone's laughing at you I'm afraid.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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Hasnt this nonsense gone on long enough? i find it highly disrespectable to the many who lost their lives. This is my final word on this topic
Knock it on the head please blocula



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by dashdespatch
Hasnt this nonsense gone on long enough? i find it highly disrespectable to the many who lost their lives. This is my final word on this topic
Knock it on the head please blocula
There are american youth being decimated in afghanistan.There are civil wars raging all over the world.Millions of children are dying of disease and thousands of them are found dead every day of the week.Thirty million russians were murdered on the eastern front during world war two. Hundreds of men were executed by their own military during world war one,because they were shell shocked or refused to kill another person.Dozens of cities were bombed and burned to the ground during world war two. Native americans were given small pox infested blankets during the winter by the united states military and government.Around a million armenians were driven into the deseret and annihilated during world war one. Twenty million ukrainians were intentionally starved to death by stalin.Atom bombs were dropped on civilian targets during world war two.Thousands of people died on nine one one.A world wide nuclear holocaust looms a little closer to us every day....

Whats my point?...Those who died at pearl harbor were not the only innocent people ever killed...Innocent people are killed all the time...
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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by dashdespatch
Hasnt this nonsense gone on long enough? i find it highly disrespectable to the many who lost their lives. This is my final word on this topic
Knock it on the head please blocula
There are american youth being decimated in afghanistan.There are civil wars raging all over the world.Millions of children are dying of disease and thousands of them are found dead every day of the week.Thirty million russians were murdered on the eastern front during world war two. Hundreds of men were executed by their own military during world war one,because they were shell shocked or refused to kill another person.Dozens of cities were bombed and burned to the ground during world war two. Native americans were given small pox infested blankets during the winter by the united states military and government.Around a million armenians were driven into the deseret and annihilated during world war one. Twenty million ukrainians were intentionally starved to death by stalin.Atom bombs were dropped on civilian targets during world war two.Thousands of people died on nine one one.A world wide nuclear holocaust looms a little closer to us every day....

Whats my point?...Those who died at pearl harbor were not the only innocent people ever killed...Innocent people are killed all the time...
edit on 17-4-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)


None of the above is in any way shape or form relevant. Stop avoiding the main issue here, that your entire case is based on.... let's see now.... nothing. At all.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Originally posted by blocula
"my generation questioned nothing,your generation questions everything"

That was spoken by a ww-2 veteran just a few years ago...

And whats your evidence that japan attacked pearl harbor?...because tptb said so?

Earlier today i watched a documentary about the attack on pearl harbor and they showed a lot of footage of japanese ships that were shown supposedly sailing to pearl harbor and there was footage of japanese airplanes that were shown taking off from japanese aircraft carriers that were supposedly sailing in the area of pearl harbor and those airplanes were shown supposedly flying to pearl harbor...

But i noticed a big problem,actually a very huge problem,i saw nothing but japanese ships and japanese airplanes,surrounded by open sea and open sky,thats it...

I do not know where those japanese ships really were and i do not know where those japanese planes were really flying to,those ships could have been anywhere and those airplanes could have been flying to anywhere...

The only way i knew those japanese ships were near pearl harbor and the only way i knew those japanese airplanes were flying off to attack pearl harbor,is because thats what the narrator was telling me...

Then they showed japanese airplanes supposedly bombing pearl harbor and i saw footage of japanese airplanes in the sky and then there was a quick edit and the scene cut to show a bomb explode on an american aircraft carrier and they kept showing the same things over and over,japanese airplanes in the sky,cut,american ships explode,japanese airplanes in the sky,cut,american ships explode and i wanted to explode and yell at the tv and tell the narrator hes wrong and hes lying...

Not once during that entire documentary,did they show a japanese airplane bombing and pearl harbor exploding in the same frame...

And even if they did,it wouldnt matter,because the american high command built or bought the japanese planes that attacked and bombed pearl harbor...

edit on 17-4-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)


I don't know what you were watching but it couldn't have been very good, because there were no US carriers in Pearl Harbour.
I meant to type battleship,not aircraft carrier,when referring to what american ships were being bombed at pearl harbor and other than that one word,everything else i said remains the same.We do not know where those japanese ships and airplanes really were in the footage and we do not know where those japanese airplanes were really going to in the footage,because there was nothing around them but open sea and open sky...
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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by dashdespatch
Hasnt this nonsense gone on long enough? i find it highly disrespectable to the many who lost their lives. This is my final word on this topic
Knock it on the head please blocula
There are american youth being decimated in afghanistan.There are civil wars raging all over the world.Millions of children are dying of disease and thousands of them are found dead every day of the week.Thirty million russians were murdered on the eastern front during world war two. Hundreds of men were executed by their own military during world war one,because they were shell shocked or refused to kill another person.Dozens of cities were bombed and burned to the ground during world war two. Native americans were given small pox infested blankets during the winter by the united states military and government.Around a million armenians were driven into the deseret and annihilated during world war one. Twenty million ukrainians were intentionally starved to death by stalin.Atom bombs were dropped on civilian targets during world war two.Thousands of people died on nine one one.A world wide nuclear holocaust looms a little closer to us every day....

Whats my point?...Those who died at pearl harbor were not the only innocent people ever killed...Innocent people are killed all the time...
edit on 17-4-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)


None of the above is in any way shape or form relevant. Stop avoiding the main issue here, that your entire case is based on.... let's see now.... nothing. At all.
How is that not relevant? it was said that i was being disrespectful to those who were killed at pearl harbor and i listed what i did above to show that world history is drenched with the blood of millions of innocent people who have been killed and just about every momentous event in world history involves innocent people getting killed.Am i not suppose to be able to discuss ww-2 because people were killed in that war?
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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:06 PM
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Blocula ..the king of BS on ATS. Always makes threads with nothing to back his crap up.



posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by kerazeesicko
Blocula ..the king of BS on ATS. Always makes threads with nothing to back his crap up.
I always try to make threads with an open mind that thinks outside of the box...



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by kerazeesicko
Blocula ..the king of BS on ATS. Always makes threads with nothing to back his crap up.
I always try to make threads with an open mind that thinks outside of the box...


There is thinking outside the box and there is making up total nonsense.

You are in the latter. If you were genuinely thinking outside the box, then you would engage in proper debate and, if proven to be incorrect, take it on the chin like a man, but no, you blindly carry on as if no-one has said anything, ignore posts that irrefutably prove you wrong and carry on like some sort of stubborn mule.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 01:15 AM
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This forum is for Highly Speculative Conspiracy Topics.

There are 3 incidents during Pearl Harbor which are legendary.

1. Sakamaki Legend. Commander of mini submarine becomes the first POW of the war.
2. Ni'ihau incident. Nishikaichi plane crash lands on a privately owned island, he goes berzerk.
3. Kam Zero. Hirano zero crash kills 4 on the ground.

Incident #2 and #3 above there are reports of taking souvenirs off these crashed planes.

What would you do, if you were at Pearl Harbor on December 7th/8th? Would you take a pistol from a dead Japanese pilot in a crashed plane? Would you cut out a piece of the tail fabric which identifies an aircraft?

Would you mutiliate a downed Jap Zero by cutting out the top line of the data stencil (for a souvenir) if there were guards posted around?


www.j-aircraft.com...
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posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 01:23 AM
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I don't get why this is put in the skunk works section when really it should be in hoax bin.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 01:46 AM
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I don't get why this is put in the skunk works section when really it should be in hoax bin.


More like the Fantasy & Science Fiction bin



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 01:53 AM
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I would if i was a member of military intelligence,or a member of the fbi and my secret mission was for me to be implanted disguised as a soldier guarding crashed japanese airplanes at pearl harbor.So i could get close enough to remove any incriminating evidence that would lead to the american public finding out that its own government and military designed,staged and carried out the attack and bombing of pearl harbor,In order to drag america into another world war,to further increase and enhance their power and to ensure super wealth for themselves and their big business war machine industrialists...

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posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by CynicalWabbit
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I don't get why this is put in the skunk works section when really it should be in hoax bin.


More like the Fantasy & Science Fiction bin
The fantasy is thinking that its not possible and the science fiction is believing that the american government and its military high command was not capable and willing to do anything in order to drag america into another world war,to ensure themselves and their war machine industrialists more power and super wealth...
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posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 05:05 AM
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It is really amazing to see how closed minded people can be on a conspiracy web site. One wonders about the motivations of some of your critics.

Keep at it. I wouldn't even bother responding to many of the people who you have given time to, as rude and idiotic as they are. I am not prepared, personally, to buy the whole theory but on the other hand, like many deep events, there is surely far more to Pearl than anybody here will ever know.

As with 9/11, the biggest clues that something was wrong are not really hard to miss unless you are trying not to see them.



posted on Apr, 18 2012 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by blocula
...And whats your evidence that japan attacked pearl harbor?...because tptb said so?...


Mostly because the Japanese said so...

...or are you going to claim that the Japanese Imperial government of WWII was also fooled by TPTB into thinking they (the Japanese) actually did it?

I mean, don't you think the Japanese government at the time (back in 1941) would have known if they were NOT the ones who really bombed Pearl Harbor?



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