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Americans Bombed Pearl Harbor With Airplanes Designed To Look Japanese

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posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 09:30 PM
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You would love the book History: Fiction or Science by Anatoly Fomenko.

Personally I believe that there is a lot more to WWII than meets the eye.




posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by dashdespatch
How do you explain the fact that over 20" japanese" planes were shot down and nobody noticed they were all re badged us aircraft
In peace time,before ww-2 started,most countries were buying and selling military hardware and supplies between eachother all the time...

the united states would have been fully and easily capable of purchasing japanese airplanes...

and easier still,all the united states would have had to do was to get a hold of blue prints for japanese aircraft, which would have been no problem at all for them to have done and then built some themselves...

How many people actually walked up to and looked at crashed and shot down japanese airplanes at pearl harbor?

Was the average soldier even allowed to?

And surely those downed japanese airplanes would have been quickly cordoned off and guarded...

And if anyone actually did get close to them,they would have been looking at and examining real japanese airplanes...

Only they would have never known that those airplanes were not built by japanese people...

And they would have never known that they were not built in japan...



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by HattoriHanzou
reply to post by blocula
 


Personally I believe that there is a lot more to WWII than meets the eye.
We know what the victors of the war want us to know and the losers version of events are supressed, snuffed out and forgotten...

Japan was crushed by the end of world war two and united states emerged supremely victorious...

And the united states version of events concerning the attack on pearl harbor has been so thoroughly welded into the national consciousness of americans,that it has become almost impossible for anyone to even dare consider the possibility that events may have happened very differently than the way we are led to believe they did...

For over 70 years the unites states additude has been...

"our version of events is the only way to think"

"our version of events is the only version to believe"

"our version is the only version that will be considered"

"our version will be the only version taught in our schools"

"our version will be the only version told and sold in books"

"our version will be drilled so deeply into every americans belief system that no one will even think we might be lying to them"

Well i am looking at it from another angle,a totally new angle and i have shown the very real possibility that america fabricated the entire attack on pearl harbor...
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posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by HattoriHanzou
reply to post by blocula
 


Personally I believe that there is a lot more to WWII than meets the eye.
We know what the victors of the war want us to know and the losers version of events is supressed,snuffed out and forgotten...

Japan was crushed by the end of world war two and united states emerged supremely victorious...

And the united states version of events concerning the attack on pearl harbor has been so thoroughly welded into the national consciousness of america,that it has become almost impossible for anyone to even dare consider the possibility that events may have happened very differently than we are led to believe...

For over 70 years the unites states additude has been...

"our version of events is the only way to think"

"our version of events is the only version to believe"

"our version is the only version that will be considered"

"our version will be the only version taught in our schools"

"our version will be the only version told and sold in books"

"our version will be drilled so deeply into every americans belief system that no one will even think we might be lying to them"

Well i am looking at it from another angle,a totally new angle and i have shown the very real possibility that america fabricated the entire attack on pearl harbor...


what about the rest of the world? are they in on it too?



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by XelNaga
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they werent 'conveniently' found. they were always there, just deep within germany occupied territory. i really doubt fema just showed up and built concentration camps and filled them with starving, dying jews.


I didn't imply that was the case,I have no doubt that the camps did exist,I just have a problem with the timeline involved in their discovery ,and the actual purpose of the camps,lets face it the allies MUST have known of the existence of such camps beore they "liberated" them in early 1945,in that case did they simply "sit" on this info for 2 or 3 years realising that they had a powerful propaganda tool on their hands,and was the purpose of the camps exagerated for full effect?



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 10:47 PM
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Interesting theory...suggesting we fabricated the attack on Pearl similarly to the fabrication of attacks on 9/11. Both of these devastating attacks allowed the U.S. to enter or start a war. Very interesting. If it was true it seems this is a game our politicians have been playing for awhile.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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Who exactly was the "rest of the world" who would have been able to have known anything about what was really taking place in pearl harbor on december 7th 1941?

The usa declared war on japan the following day and at that moment,every american was seething with rabid hatred towards the japanese and so much so that 120,000 japanese americans were forced out of their american homes,rounded up on american soil and put into american concentration camps without any say in the matter and if they resisted they were imprisoned...

so judging by that cruel and inhumane treatment,its easy for me to consider the real possibility that some japanese americans were also forced to fly the planes that attacked pearl harbor and if they were threatened with life sentences without parole if they didnt,if they were threatened with their own deaths and the deaths of their entire families if they didnt,fear and terror would have taken them over and they would have complied,imo...

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posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by HattoriHanzou
reply to post by blocula
 


You would love the book History: Fiction or Science by Anatoly Fomenko.

Personally I believe that there is a lot more to WWII than meets the eye.
I have never heard of those books before and i love history books.Thanx for telling me about them, their right up my alley,thats for sure and heres a link about them if anyone else is interested > www.timothyhorrigan.com...
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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Those books will blow your mind and change your life. An interesting thing to note is that while Western historians have condemned them, they have not attempted to disprove them.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by HattoriHanzou
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Those books will blow your mind and change your life. An interesting thing to note is that while Western historians have condemned them, they have not attempted to disprove them.
Thats no surprise at all,of course western historians are going to condemn them.The west has won the vast majority of wars during the 20th century and earlier and they control what gets taught about history and that history has been warped by the west and twisted by the all powerful popes of the middle ages and those books stand up against the enforced agendas,false doctrines and strictly adhered to belief structures of western civilization...

I think i read in the above link that the author is writing 7 or 8 volumes in total and some of the future volumes will deal with more recent history and it will be "very interesting" to read what he says about "pearl harbor",if he does mention it and maybe hes read this thread and agrees? or maybe hes already thought of what i did?
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by Patrol
Bravo to the initial poster. The whole Pearl Harbor thing was staged.
I would go even further, the famous D-Day in Normandy, I call it the slaughter house day !!!
The most UNBELIEVABLE day in the history of the WW2.
Who was the moron who decided this incredible manslaughter to happen?
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I would have to say there were two other days during world war-2 that were both more unbelievable than d-day and caused much more slaughter of incalculable magnitudes...

One was the day the first atom bomb ever used in war was dropped on hiroshima on august 6th 1945,which killed around 150,000 people and if that and the atomic bomb dropped on nagasaki on august 9th, which killed around 75,000 people,had not ended world war-2 in the south pacific, the allies were going to invade mainland japan a few months later with a combined naval force that would have been 3-times larger than the naval armada of d-day and so those atom bombs saved hundreds of thousands of allied lives and millions of japanese lives that would have been lost during that invasion...

The second was nazi germanys invasion of russia on june 22nd 1941,with a combined force of men and material that was 5-times larger than d-day,resulting in numerous battles of unequaled ferocity and unparalleled barbaric atrocities all across the eastern front,which lasted four continuous years and caused the deaths of around 5,000,000 germans and 30,000,000 russians and so the eastern front of world war-2,was the most terrible and savage event in the history of humanity...
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:02 AM
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Sorry, but your theory is very wrong. The Japanese even accepted credit for the attacks. There are quotes from Japanese admirals and interviews.... Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Japanese.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Sorry, but your theory is very wrong. The Japanese even accepted credit for the attacks. There are quotes from Japanese admirals and interviews.... Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Japanese.

Who was conducting the interviews? Americans and maybe british and who was filming the admirals while they were speaking those credits and quotes for the attack? Americans and maybe british...

The americans relentlessly carpet bombed and fire bombed dozens of japanese cities and even atom bombed two japanese cities,killing millions of people and the united states government and military rounded up 120,000 japanese americans on us soil and forced them into prison camps and so its not hard at all for me to think and believe that interviews and filmed accounts by japanese military members could have been fabricated and those few japanese military poeple who actually were filmed and interviewed,could have been forced to follow a pre-arranged script and made to lie for the history books and for the cameras and threatend severely if they didnt comply ...

And i explained why the japanese would have wanted to take credit for the attack on pearl harbor.For its huge propaganda value drilled into the japanese people and for a massive ego boost to its seemingly invincible army and navy...
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by blocula
Who was conducting the interviews? Americans and maybe british and who was filming the admirals while they were speaking those credits and quotes for the attack? Americans and maybe british...




You are really going to suggest that those Admirals, the Japanese Government and all the media across the world was some how forced by America and Britain to say it was Japan?


Sources from all over the world confirmed that it was Japan. That includes the Japanese government. Sources who were in no way under duress when they pointed at Japan... Or are you really under the impression that those Admirals are the only ones who had anything to say about it? ( They weren't under duress either)


You're being very unrealistic.

And yes, The US went to war with Japan.....They carpet bombed them and even nuked them...We know this.... We also know that took place AFTER Japan attacked pearl harbor.



Japan decided that the only way to defeat the United States was to preemptively destroy the U.S. Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor with a strong and decisive blow. They believed that American industrial might would tip the scales against Japan in a prolonged war and felt its military success was dependent on destroying the U.S. Pacific Fleet early in the war. While the United States was recovering from such an attack, the Japanese felt they would be able to pursue its military campaign throughout Asia and the Pacific, unimpeded by the United States.


THAT is why Japan attacked pearl harbor... They took credit it for it because they did it...And the above quote is WHY they did it.


www.wisegeek.com...

Here, this link below has detailed information and facts about Japan preparing for attack long before it happened.

www.pacificwar.org.au...

Again, I am sorry, but your theory is very wrong.

Hey, here is a conspiracy for you. I registered on the 66th anniversary of Pearl Harbor. Hey, maybe I was in on it.


Have a nice day. Off to other threads, friend. Maybe I will see you around sometime.

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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by Pauligirl

Originally posted by blocula
I could go on and on and on...

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Please don't. You haven't shown anything.
You've got no proof, just your wild opinion.
I just can't figure out what your point is other than seeking attention.


Seconded. You have no proof at all, not one shred of it. On the other hand there is a vast swathe of evidence that the Japanese did it, especially in the wake of the British raid on Taranto, which sank three Italian battleships and showed what could be done.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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To me it appears that the 9/11 conspiracy can be directly traced back to the attacks on Pearl Harbor. It's a Byzantine methodology that TPTB have perfected, perfectly timed and eloquently forgotten. The similarities cannot be ignored: In both attacks, we had advanced intelligence and knowledge of the events to follow. This knowledge was "ignored" by those in charge. Massive amounts of injury, death, and destruction followed, dragging the United States military into the war. A war we wanted. All the while the blanket is being pulled over our eyes by our politicians hoping our need for vengeance overshadows the truth.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by Cosmic911

To me it appears that the 9/11 conspiracy can be directly traced back to the attacks on Pearl Harbor. It's a Byzantine methodology that TPTB have perfected, perfectly timed and eloquently forgotten. The similarities cannot be ignored: In both attacks, we had advanced intelligence and knowledge of the events to follow. This knowledge was "ignored" by those in charge. Massive amounts of injury, death, and destruction followed, dragging the United States military into the war. A war we wanted. All the while the blanket is being pulled over our eyes by our politicians hoping our need for vengeance overshadows the truth.


I'm sorry, but there's never been any evidence that the US knew about the attack on Pearl Harbour beforehand. None at all. There's been plenty of rumours, but nothing concrete, and believe me a lot of Roosevelt-haters have been looking for quite some time.
The US did suspect that there might be a Japanese attack on Malaya and the Dutch East Indies and also that Guam and the Philipinnes might be attacked, but Pearl Harbour was thought to be too far away. The Pacific Fleet was there in case War Plan Orange would have to be implemented via the battleships and the escorting carriers (which, in case you're wondering, would have been a total and utter catastrophe).



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Originally posted by Pauligirl

Originally posted by blocula
I could go on and on and on...

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Please don't. You haven't shown anything.
You've got no proof, just your wild opinion.
I just can't figure out what your point is other than seeking attention.


Seconded. You have no proof at all, not one shred of it. On the other hand there is a vast swathe of evidence that the Japanese did it, especially in the wake of the British raid on Taranto, which sank three Italian battleships and showed what could be done.
What we actually have is a vast swathe of americans in the government and military telling everyone else that the japanese did it,thats the reality of the situation and as far as proof goes,i have offered multitudes of unexplained anomalies and seemingly lucky coincidences that are just too good to be true in my opening post and elsewhere,dealing with numerous events shortly before and during the attack on pearl harbor that still remain unanswered and are being swept aside and forgotten more and more every year...
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posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by blocula
What we actually have is a vast swathe of americans in the government and military telling everyone else that the japanese did it,thats the reality of the situation and as far as proof goes,i have offered multitudes of unexplained anomalies and seemingly lucky coincidences that are just too good to be true in my opening post and elsewhere,dealing with numerous events shortly before and during the attack on pearl harbor that still remain unanswered and are being swept aside and forgotten more and more every year...
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Erm, yes, because they either saw the attack or heard it from those who saw it. Plus there was the sunken minisub in the harbour and the other minisub that was abandoned and the wrecked planes in the harbour, plus the bodies in those planes, plus the fact that the Japanese government not only admitted to the attack (which took place at the same time as other attacks by the way) but revelled in it. So no, you still have no proof at all.



posted on Apr, 11 2012 @ 05:51 PM
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Perhaps evidence is not the right word. Perhaps intention is not the right word either. However, any commander worth their own salt should have realized how unprepared and unorganized our Navy was at Pearl. Our state of readiness was laughable and should have been addressed to avoid an assault or attack on our Pacific forces. Unfortunate as well, not all intelligence and transmissions and movements have been fully declassified. It will be interesting to see what they reveal, if we ever get to seem them under FOIA.


...Admiral Kimmel nor General Short ever faced court martial. It is alleged this was to avoid disclosing information showing the U.S. had advanced knowledge of the attack. When asked, "Will historians know more later?", Kimmel replied, "' ... I'll tell you what I believe. I think that most of the incriminating records have been destroyed. ... I doubt if the truth will ever emerge.' ..." From Vice Admiral Libby, "I will go to my grave convinced that FDR ordered Pearl Harbor to let happen. He must have known."It is equally likely this was done to avoid disclosing the fact Japanese codes were being read, given there was a war on.

Pearl Harbor-Advanced Knowledge Conspiracy


How many times have we been fooled by propaganda like this?



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