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No, back in WW2 you let Hitler take 3 countries before Brittan and France decided enough was enough! Czechoslovokia was actually ENCOURAGED to give hitler what he wanted by the "allies" before the war started in order to appease hitler.
We wouldn't have pre-empted a war with out thinking it through, or having the backing of most if not all of our Allies and the World.
Originally posted by CazMedia
NOTHING i have EVER seen has made me as sick, angry, appalled, and wishing to kill another human as seeing the full, unedited, BRUTAL, viscious, evil, and INHUMAN acts as the insurgant terrorists have put on tape.
How much doing nothing to oppose them is tolorable before someone says enough is enough and TAKES ACTION?
Originally posted by Gryffen
You know what would work!
Pull our guys out...drop a few ADAMS on the whole of the Middle East and turn the place into a self lighting..glassfloored parking lot!!
Originally posted by taibunsuu
����..No matter how hard you 'strike back' the fact is in our current situation we don't have the assets to make effective change over there. ����
Originally posted by keholmes
Originally posted by taibunsuu
����..No matter how hard you 'strike back' the fact is in our current situation we don't have the assets to make effective change over there. ����
And at least on that point you would be wrong, as we already have made effective changes in the region�.in two countries the administrations are no longer. In a third they gave up a good portion of their WMD program; whether they have turned the corner or not they have at least started to pretend that they do not support terrorism. Another country has gone from a blind eye to terrorism, to helping America at great risk. Saudis appear to have figured out that turning a blind eye to their radical Islamic homebrew is not the best policy. That is more support for America then I�ve previously seen from that region in a very long time.
Ask and ye shall recieve......Dont pick a fight your not willing to finnish.....30 years of NOT taking a definative action has bred the idea that we WILL quit, that we're affraid to take and dish out casualties.....
Did you ever stop to think that's the response the crime is intended to elicit?
We DO have the means to make effective change, not only millitarily but economically and diplomatically as well. As far as the millitary option, we can force a change whenever we'd like IF we stop playing politics and DOMINATE the situation.
No matter how hard you 'strike back' the fact is in our current situation we don't have the assets to make effective change over there. War against an insurgency is not merely a matter of firepower, unless you set out to obliterate the population entirely.
Excuse me? You pretty much have to HATE someone to become a suicide attacker. If you already HATE me that much, its unlikley that your going to HATE me more. Hate is Hate. We're not talking about a vauge dislike, or being in the middle of the dislike scale....Hate is the extreme end of this scale, so again, how much HATE can you exhibit if your blowing yourself up to get your enemy? How many years of this HATE have we tolorated? Reap what youve sown, Im tired of embassy bombings, attacks against USA intrests, and thousands marching in the streets chanting DEATH to America (for decades now) while burning our flag and Presidents in effigy. Since ive seen their hatred since i was a boy, i say if you hated me this whole time, then now we'll give you a REAL reason to hate us. Again...we're going to finnish what radical muslims in MANY places started.
which causes further hatred toward the US among the resident population.
Counter insurgency is often times a SECRATIVE affair...i wouldnt expect that we would hear ANYTHING about its activities or successes now, during the conflict, as it would be counter productive and dangerous to those involved. I must conclude this IS ocuring, but that because its not do-able in the spotlight...we're not seeing it in action. This does NOT mean it is not occuring.
There are texts on how to perform counter-insurgency as well, but notice they have not been used one bit.
Originally posted by taibunsuu
Basically what I mean in this statement isn't the Middle East in general, but in Iraq. At the current levels it doesn't seem we're able to both rebuild the country and maintain security. If the country is degraded to the point of non-functionality, residents eventually move to the side that they feel is going to win in the long term�����
Originally posted by taibunsuu
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Right now from what we can see the country, security situation isn't nearly good enough to convince the population to go with the law and order we want to provide. This is quite visible unlike the counter-insurgency methods you mentioned which of course are below the radar.���.
Originally posted by taibunsuu
As far as hate goes, yes it's a motivator to risk death, or suicide. However, plenty of times when someone's sacrificed themselves, it's not out of hatred for the individuals, but for what they represent, or for what an individual loves or is loyal to����.
Originally posted by taibunsuu
Well have you never heard the phrase "I'm willing to die for my country?" That shows prior intent to sacrifice life for principles, and has nothing to do with hatred.