Originally posted by selfharmonise
reply to post by milominderbinder
Glad you picked up on it.
Whilst the cheap attitude some people have to life is against my personal belief system, I still believe abortion - early stage - is justified.
Whilst I have longed for a baby, and had many miscarriages, that's just the luck of my draw. I can't let it colour my thinking on abortion.
I am not a big believer in ivf. I think it's a bit unnecessary, and the downsides outweigh the benefits. However, it's a personal choice for someone
to donate their eggs, so, I will not interfere.
Yoyoyo - did you read the article I linked to?
Precisely. One of the biggest reasons I'm pro-abortion is because WE DO treat life so cheaply...especially the very second it draws it's first
breath. I don't want to stereotype...but a very large percentage of the pro-lifers who are so hell bent on giving an unborn child a "chance" are
ALSO in favor of immediately turning their back on said child before the umbilical cord is even severed.
These same people don't give a sh&^t of that child has food, shelter, clothing, medical care, employed parents, a decent education, an environment
not riddled with carcinogens and toxic chemicals, or any hope of upward mobility. Likewise...the lion's share of them JUST CAN'T WAIT to send that
same "innocent little child" off to die in misguided wars waged under false pretenses and fueled by ignorance and religious fervor.
Screw it. If that's the "life" we are going to give these kids with the added benefit of not even their own mother and/or father even WANTING
them...then death is a mercy in my opinion. They are the lucky ones.
Besides...ever notice how the incoherent religious "arguments" conflict with one another?
1. Pro-Lifer's more often than not "believe in the bible" and want to save "innocent lives".
2. The bible pretty clearly states in numerous places that humans are born inherently evil and tarnished as a by-product of the Original Sin, when a
talking snake told a lady to eat an apple in the woods.
3. Thus...according to "the bible", said fetus is really nothing more than Satan's own seed and is destined for deepest, darkest pits of hell
until such a time as they are either baptised or "accept their personal savior", depending upon which one of the 3,300+ specific christian cults
"know what god wants".
4. To my knowledge, there has not yet been a single instance of in utero
baptismal rites nor of attempts at in utero
Hence...the bible states that killing a fetus is killing one of Lucifer's own.
5. However...let's say "the bible" is dead wrong for a second and these people don't really have any understanding whatsoever of the religious
text which they purport guides their decision making process and imagine that an unborn fetus REALLY is truly untarnished and as pure as the driven
snow. Then...wouldn't that unborn child just be getting a straight ticket to "heaven"? I mean..."god" wouldn't torture innocent
babies...right? So...what's wrong with sending babies to heaven? I thought that was where the angels, harps, and clouds were? Maybe that baby can
even go play hopscotch with Jesus or something if he's not too busy.
That's not so bad...right?
Unless of course, "the bible" is nothing more than the mistranslations of the oral mythology of desert nomads from thousands and thousands of years
ago which was subjected to another 2000 years of heavy editing and mass re-writes for the benefit of a rich and powerful ruling class.
Interestingly, I cannot help but note that the latter explanation would at least explain how the baptismal
rites which were originally
implemented by priests of Baphomet in pagan Carthage ever got all mixed up Judaic monotheism as well as probably shed some light on why modern day
christians participate in the Druidic practice of bringing a tree into the house prior to the winter solstice.
But hey...what the hell do I know, right? I'm "evil" and haven't watched The Green Lantern.