Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
reply to post by milominderbinder
I proposed to yoyo quite a few posts ago that perhaps pro-choice is a fair compromise,
People should not make compromises on their values. I was chastised by an employer for not giving information to someone about how to access an
abortion. It only mattered to her because she did not want to risk losing Title 10 funds for her maternity home. When she said to me: "We must put
aside our religious beliefs for the good of the organization." I thought: "Yeah, that this is probably the same argument Adolph Hitler used."
The OP will never accept that Pro-Choice is okay because it makes abortion acceptable. To someone who views abortion as murder there can be no
You will never change the OP's mind. If you haven't figured that out yet then I guess your goal is to make her look like all the names you called
her are accurate.
She speaks for the innocent ones who have no one to speak for them. I agree with her.
You may argue that it is my body, but nobody is talking about ending your life, are they?
Read the previous posts. I'm not going to get into the same exact discussion with you that I just had with yoyo. However, NOBODY IS ASKING YOU TO
"COMPROMISE YOUR VALUES". Believe what you want. Say what you want. Do whatever it is that you want.
However...YOUR RIGHT TO EXPRESS YOUR "VALUES" ENDS WHERE MY RIGHT TO HAVE DIFFERENT VALUES BEGINS.
If you don't want people pushing Islam, Satanism, and Scientology on you...then I expect the same courtesy when I politely request to be excluded
from yoyo's "prayers" and efforts to bring me to jesus or whatever. It's rude and insulting to my intelligence.
Secondly...you think abortion is "murder". Yippee. Good for you. Thus...much as I stated to yoyo...the most the federal government should ever be
allowed to say about the matter is that it lies in the domain of states rights given that IT IS THE STATES WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OTHER VIOLENT
CRIMES INCLUDING "MURDER".
However...much as predicted such a common sense and rational approach just isn't good enough for a pro-lifer. Read the posts...yoyo STARTED calling
me names 20 pages ago. The hypocrisy is ridiculous.
I'm not trying to change your or yoyo's mind about whatever you believe to be true. However...one only has to look at yoyo's last post to see that
she is going to great lengths to change mine.
And yes...YOU SHOULD COMPROMISE YOUR BELIEFS. Especially when your beliefs are so reprehensible to others and they extend that courtesy to you. If
you are not willing to compromise on your beliefs...why should I compromise on mine? I compromise on my belief's by not trying to eradicate the
memory of any and all organized religions from planet earth.
I BELIEVE that this would be morally correct and in the best interest of humanity...but I agree to permit and tolerate your religion with the
understanding that I get the same courtesy back in kind. I BELIEVE that killing an unwanted fetus is merciful euthanasia and that only a sadistic
sociopath would bring an unwanted child into this world given the abysmal "life" they "look forward to". However...I am not now, nor will I ever,
speak in favor of mandatory abortions being performed on women against their will. Likewise...I think Jack Kevorkian was a great guy...but I do not
presume to have the authority to prevent you from suffering for years and years with a terminal illness in misery and agony for the betterment of a
big pharma's quarterly stock reports if you feel that your "god" wants you to do so.
In fact, I'll even COMPROMISE MY BELIEFS and agree to use (*GASP*) MEDICARE DOLLARS OBTAINED VIA FEDERAL TAXATION for keeping the pain-riddled husk
of your former self alive, should it be your wish. However...if you want to live in the United States and simultaneously think you "deserve"
medicare or social security...it's a two-way street. You will just have to get used to the idea that other people with a different set values and
beliefs might expect to use your federal tax dollars for medical procedures which you are not keen on.
In short... treat others as you wish to be treated. If you do not want to be required by law to adhere to my secular values, then don't require me
by law to adhere to your religious values. Likewise, having been born an unwanted child myself, I can proudly support aborting any and all unwanted
pregnancies as it is the way I myself wish I had been treated when I was in utero.
We send people who run puppy mills to prison for breeding too many unwanted and uncared for puppies...but there is no end to the cruelty we will force
upon human children.
If you want to be permitted to have your beliefs, you must also permit others to have the same.