It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Ron Paul and Abortion " My thoughts" Please contribute

page: 19
9
<< 16  17  18    20  21  22 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 04:40 AM
link   

Originally posted by yoyoyoyo
reply to post by Maslo
 


Because if you continue that view through your life, Why care about anything?

Might as well go end my life as nothing is important especially the unborn who have done nothing wrong.


I dont know how you arrived at such radical nihilism from what I wrote. Strawman. I said minds definately do have value. What does not have value is mindless life. Why not kill yourself or other persons? Because you and they have a mind. Not because they are simply biologically alive.


edit on 10/4/12 by Maslo because: (no reason given)




posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 07:32 AM
link   

Originally posted by Ilyich
and I commend them for that. It takes a lot of guts to do this


The only reason it takes "guts" to do this is because deep down, all of these women realize that they are extinguishing a human life.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 07:35 AM
link   
reply to post by Gram1point0
 

I find that sad... That you would root out the unintelligent. There is a role for each level of intelligence.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 09:03 AM
link   
reply to post by windword
 


Class act, aren't you? Spay the bitch and neuter the dog!!!
You talk about women having control over their bodies, how we must keep our hands off your family's uteri! But you want prepubescent boys neutered! You are a sick puppy. Tie your tubes and those of your daughters, we don’t want more of you on this planet.

edit on 10-4-2012 by LaborofLove because: Clarification



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 10:08 AM
link   
reply to post by yoyoyoyo
 


Why bring up issues that divide and conquer then? Why not avoid those and explain that abortions will still be available under Paul and he has no intentions to ban it (which is true) we are trying to gain support not chase it away.

The main goal is to take abortion out of the presidential race. Gay Marriage and abortion shouldn't be discussed by presidents.
edit on 10-4-2012 by GogoVicMorrow because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 11:08 AM
link   
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow
 


We have already been conquered and divided.


Abortion is wrong...

Ron Paul would leave it up to the states.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 11:16 AM
link   
reply to post by yoyoyoyo
 


We need our government out of women's body, As we are accessories to murder as they are using our tax money.


Basically our government is using our money in a unethical way and it's effecting us all. Directly or Indirectly its effecting us all.

Whether you realize it or not. Whether you want to accept it or not. It is.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 11:20 AM
link   

Originally posted by Clearskies
reply to post by Clearskies
 


About a year after that, i got pregnant again, in spite of a condom, with the same ex-boyfriend. I decided that i would keep it, no matter what. But, I had a miscarriage anyway and while I mourned (a little) for that baby, there was still closure. Unlike the abortion! I still had mental problems for about 2 more years, until i became a born-again christian. G-d forgave me for the abortion and showed me that there was not just a devil in this world, but his opposite: G-d.


I really believe what your saying. I hope all is well now.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 11:22 AM
link   
reply to post by paleorchid13
 


Don't you know the big pharm companies want everyone using their drugs, They are intentionally drugging us to get them to use their drugs. Giving us cancer and all these other man made diseases.

Don't believe everything your told. Think and research as much as possible.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 11:24 AM
link   
reply to post by Ilyich
 


You commend them for being child killers, What a whacko world we live in. The unborn are the one's that most need our protection...


Women that get pregnant and get an abortion for no reason then self-preservation. It's pure greed. Give it to a family that cares, Put up with that 8-9 months of temporary discomfort and give that life away, Don't end it.

I've made that mistake, I regret it. Don't lead by mine and many others examples. It's not the right thing to do.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 11:28 AM
link   
reply to post by windword
 


I'm not talking about contraceptives, I'm talking about the actual "medical" procedure where they prod and break your embryo into nothing. What was once there is now gone due to a barbaric "medical" procedure.


This is a sick world.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 11:30 AM
link   
reply to post by froglegs79
 


But my friend it is black and white, The gray is just what you think.

Think about it...


Your ending a life, there is no gray in there.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 11:31 AM
link   
reply to post by LaborofLove
 


You can't expect the ignorant to be rational...


It's ignorant to think killing the unborn is ethical.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 11:33 AM
link   
reply to post by Maslo
 


Mindless life, I believe you sound mindless...

What should we do? I don't think you should die? Do you?



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 11:56 AM
link   

Originally posted by yoyoyoyo
reply to post by Maslo
 


Mindless life, I believe you sound mindless...

What should we do? I don't think you should die? Do you?


I think it is an absurd notion that a bunch of human cells with no neocortex should have a right to life. And not only is it absurd, but it is a disgusting devaluation of the worth of a human being to be compared as an equal with a microscopic bunch of cells.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 01:26 PM
link   

Originally posted by yoyoyoyo
reply to post by apushforenlightment
 


Your telling me to stop judging others yet you judge me?

God has sent me here... Tell me I'm wrong and I'll tell you you're wrong.


Im giving you a reminder to not to be to certain. I might be wrong and it might be karmatic bad thing. I might be right and it is the will of god. When I see the path a human soul has taken and experianced what she have been thru then I can see how I would have acted instead and not even then it is up to me to judge. Some of the abortions might be bad and some might be good. You are generalising and are in this question caught up in duality.

God sent both of us here for a reason as all soul that are here at this moment in time. I wonder what that reason is. Unfortunalty I am unsure wheater you follow logic reasoning or faith perscribed in bible or ego. Logic seem to work better than faith since the greatest thinkers seem to get it better (lose their ego) than the religous clergyman. But that is a personal view from what I have seen of the actions of the christian/islamic churches. But then that is a generalisation (duality) also so it is not completly true.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 01:26 PM
link   

Originally posted by Maslo

Originally posted by yoyoyoyo
reply to post by Maslo
 


Mindless life, I believe you sound mindless...

What should we do? I don't think you should die? Do you?


I think it is an absurd notion that a bunch of human cells with no neocortex should have a right to life. And not only is it absurd, but it is a disgusting devaluation of the worth of a human being to be compared as an equal with a microscopic bunch of cells.


What a horrible way to justify ending your brothers and sisters life before their even born.

No chance. Give them a chance... You we're given a chance, Why don't they deserve a chance?

Because of the women's "medical" advancement, which is as barbaric as killing your son or daughter for shaming you.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 01:35 PM
link   
reply to post by apushforenlightment
 


Every unborn we kill will create a paradigm and will have a lasting effect on every one of us.

One of these unborn might be the reason the human race survives or advances to a new age, yet we're mindlessly murdering these unborn by the millions.

I see something wrong with murder especially for superficial self-preservation. Such as no complications, perfect baby, yet it's aborted. When there's plenty of parents that want to adopt.

You know why they don't want to adopt their children, because their greedy. Have the damn baby and give it a chance.

We don't live in romania here, There is in USA baby drop off centers.. At wal-mart for god damn sakes we're most of us shop!




edit on 10-4-2012 by yoyoyoyo because: you to us



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 01:53 PM
link   

Originally posted by yoyoyoyo
reply to post by apushforenlightment
 


To ant's we are not god. Go ask them, they will pay you little attention.

But ya your right you can play God and end their life. Just like abortion. Playing God.

And trust me it doesn't make God happy. Murder is one of the worst sins you can commit on this earth.

Murdering the innocent just makes it that much worse.


Now you are telling me you can read the pattern again and know what makes god happy. Sorry if you could then we would not have this discussion becuase you would be at startegic points in the world at the right time to make crucial changes that are needed. If there is change here then it is very small but I applaud your will to want to change the world. Unfortunatly from my point of view this is not the right cause. I wonder if Jesus was happy to go home when he died. Must be easier to live with only evolved enlightened souls that are not caught up in duality. I rather have a soul(kid) waitng in heaven with angels for a new life that will evole the soul spiritually fast and without hurt.

I do not think you have not spent years in abuse and fear in a place that your mind considers hell. Trust me some lifes are better not experianced. Sometimes a soul deevolves and that is a waste. From my point of view your no abortion ideas will only create crime/murders and crazy people from the neglected children that will be born.

Fix the system for the children so that abortion is not needed instead. Judging and calling the people who are in a bad place murderers do not help a single kid.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 01:58 PM
link   

Originally posted by yoyoyoyo
reply to post by apushforenlightment
 


Every unborn we kill will create a paradigm and will have a lasting effect on every one of us.

One of these unborn might be the reason the human race survives or advances to a new age, yet we're mindlessly murdering these unborn by the millions.

I see something wrong with murder especially for superficial self-preservation. Such as no complications, perfect baby, yet it's aborted. When there's plenty of parents that want to adopt.

You know why they don't want to adopt their children, because their greedy. Have the damn baby and give it a chance.

We don't live in romania here, There is in USA baby drop off centers.. At wal-mart for god damn sakes we're most of us shop!




edit on 10-4-2012 by yoyoyoyo because: you to us



Look at the bigger picture. There are currently 25,000+ people dying every day by starvation/malnutrition. Most are children. This is by design. This is the society we've accepted. We don't even bat an eye anymore to these figures, let alone making front page news. This life is over-rated. We are born into slavery. Why compound the problem? Have a nice day.




top topics



 
9
<< 16  17  18    20  21  22 >>

log in

join