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Neo: But if you already know, how can I make a choice?
The Oracle: Because you didn't come here to make the choice, you've already made it. You're here to try to understand *why* you made it. I thought you'd have figured that out by now.
Originally posted by arpgme
This means that you brain already tells you what you are going to do but you have the free-will to think about it but you WILL do what the brain asked of you.
This means that all of your choices are already determined but your thoughts and emotions aren't.
Originally posted by KillThePoor
I guess a response really depends on whether you think consciousness is some spiritual entity or we are highly complex living machines. I fall into the second category and think of us as programmable computers. I think humans have the ability to reprogram the way their mind works and think that is the fundamental difference between animals and us. I would say if we had free-will there would be no murderers or "evil" people and that no one would ever have to say sorry. Have you ever hurt someone you didn't mean to? You really did, but your "thinking" mind knew better. We can't say we have zero free-will, but you also can't say we are nothing but free-will. We are machines beholden to our bodies and environment, whether social or physical, but the machine is capable of reprogramming itself. I don't think you can separate our conscious mind from the sub-conscious because there is no separation. We are a mixture of both instinct and an amazing ability to map out different scenarios almost instantly and pick the one that best fits with our "base programming."
Why are some more easy to persuade to kill than others? Why are some more easy to enrage then others? We are just a mixture of "base programming," like our culture, family, basically our entire environment, and an ability to think for ourselves. I think free-will is over rated and given too much credit. We are slaves to our minds and our bodies and our world. We can only act within certain boundaries. If complete free-will existed, I doubt anyone would say sorry or hurt another, or even live on this planet. It is hard for me to write what I am thinking, but hopefully I've spoken to someone who understands. I really liked the Oracle from the Matrix post. It is along the lines of what I am thinking.
Originally posted by Rocketman7
reply to post by arpgme
So then why the delay? Why the seven seconds? When the decision has already been made? Well that is a mystery, but it is not due to lack of free will.
Originally posted by Spiratio
It can be explained as the other way round... i.e. everything is happening 7 seconds faster than we think so there is a lag in the content of which is experienced, but in actuality part of oneself is always 7 seconds ahead of the illusion of time-lag which translates as sensory experiences in the same moment (this fits into the eternal time paradox i.e. all events of an infinite many happening as eternal moments in their own right which are then strung together as linearised experiences) ...
Is this evidence that free-will of action and law of attraction does not exist, if not please refute