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Oh please the Clinton boom years were just an after-effect of Reaganomics.
Originally posted by poet1b
Such beliefs are excellent examples of how conservatives are in complete denial of reality.
Anyone who voted for a Bush, who doesn't spend a lot of time banging their head into the wall, has chosen to remain ignorant of reality, IMO.
Originally posted by poet1b
You post a video about one Obama supporter making absurd statements, and claim that is some kind of indictment on the whole Obama admin?
You completely destroyed your credibility on that one.
Gore would have made a decent President, and our economy would be doing a lot better right now. You voted for the worst of two evils. You probably think global warming is a myth.
When government actually colludes with corporations to rob the middle class of their wealth, it causes the economy to collapse, and that is exactly what happened under both Bush regimes. That you refuse to recognize this demonstrates that you continue to choose to remain ignorant.
Guess what, writing laws preventing corporations from putting poison in our water supply is protecting our lives. That is the purpose of business regulations. It seems you are unable, or unwilling, to connect the dots.
edit on 14-4-2012 by poet1b because: change adverb
Your second statement can be applied to President Obama and those who voted for him.
I pointed out that idiots voted for President Obama.
Originally posted by poet1b
I pointed out that idiots voted for President Obama.
So what is your point. Yeah, idiots do vote, but that is not a reflection on Obama. Strawman nonsense that has nothing to do with my point.
You didn't specifically mention anything, except that government should protect people's rights. I pointed out that laws against pollution are legitimate, and serve the purpose of protecting people's rights.
Most of the pro-business laws were put into place before Democrats took over office.
Congress only passes laws, it is the exec admin that is suppose to enforce those laws, and that is what the GW admin refused to do. That was the problem.
Yeah, there is a huge difference between the way Clinton ran the exec admin and the way GW ran things, and between the way Obama runs things.
GW selectively ignored those laws he had no desire to enforce, and so business fraud ran amuck, and illegals entered our country at will.
Clinton did a great deal to work towards ending fraudulent business practices and going after those who hire illegals. Obama is doing the same, although he could do a much better job of going after illegal immigrants.
I went on to point out that Democrats passed the regulations that the Presidents Bush signed into office and that it was therefore both the Democrats and the Republicans fault.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by LErickson
So you are saying that following sharia laws means that Muslims will want to kill you?
From your earlier posts, sounds like you are flip flopping.
When I say Muslims want to implement sharia law, I mean they want to eliminate our rights, and force us to live by their barbaric rules.
Originally posted by dawnstar
reply to post by poet1b
according to some christian sects....
it's still the father's right to chose who the women marries...Princess Diana's marriage war arranged.
women are to obey their husbands in EVERYTHING....
men should dicipline their wives when it's needed.
men kind of stand in as high priests in the home.
they should have the final say in all decisions.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by LErickson
So you don't think the Sharia law where the word of woman is worth half the word of a man is barbaric?
You have proven that you don't know squat, or are incapable of telling the truth about Islam, and that is all you have proven.
Originally posted by poet1b
Sure, there might some radical Christian groups out there following ancient barbaric practices, but they are an invisible minority, while we get reports of honor killings on a regular basis, girls as young as 8 married to old men, girls forced to marry their cousins, girls getting killed for going to school, raped victims being beaten for putting themselves in a position where they could be raped.
This stuff is common in the Muslim world, while your claims about Christians in our modern era are not backed by any evidence.
Originally posted by poet1b
I pointed out that anyone who voted for a Bush should be extremely embarrassed, and re-thinking their whole political perspective.
You posted a bunch of nonsense about idiots voting, and other things that are meaningless, trying to connect two things that are not related.
Originally posted by poet1b
You claim that business is cyclic, no problem there.
Then you claim that "efforts to actually regulate the economy make matters worse."
The purpose of regulations is Not to prevent business cycles, it is to prevent businesses from committing crimes, which can impact huge numbers of people. Again, you re trying to connect two unrelated things.
Originally posted by poet1b
And I pointed out that it was the GW admins failure to enforce those laws (which is the role of the exec admin) that created all the problems, proving your point mute, as well as completely false.
Originally posted by poet1b
Business cycles have nothing to do with this mess, that is a bunch of bull hockey.
Originally posted by poet1b
Failure to prevent business fraud is what created the current mess, just like after Reagan's admin put in place fre market deregulation, the SnLs were robbed by fraudulent business practices, and we went into boom bust cycles created by the business fraud. The boom bust cycles are not natural market cycles, they are created by crooked business practices. GW gets into office, and the whole mess is repeated. It is exactly what happened in the twenties leading to the Great Depression. In the thirties under FDR, they put laws in place to prevent the fraud, and we had reasonably solid economic growth for over thirty years, grew a large middle class and created the worlds strongest economy.
Originally posted by poet1b
That you want to continue to repeat the whole mess demonstrates that you choose to ignore reality. You want to do what has been proven to fail over and over again.
Originally posted by LErickson
No, I am saying my posts are complete and in context. I am not sure what game you are trying to play but I would rather have an actual discussion.
Please try and have an actual discussion, not this fake response to things you pretend to not get so you can just post whatever argument starting crap you like.
You can find examples in both religions of barbaric idiocy.