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IF the Jewish community can use the Beth Din courts to settle arbitration cases then I do not have a problem with Muslims doing the same thing with their Sharia courts As with Beth Din courts they do not replace the law of the land. In an ideal world these would not be needed but we do not live in a an ideal world.
I don't believe there is a homosexual agenda. It is just easier for people to " come out" and be proudly gay in these modern times. A good thing, I'm sure you'll agree.
I always like Condoleezza Rice. Was surprised she did not run for president. The problem with Palin and Bachman is that they are both mad as hatter's.
I think abortion should always be seen as the very last resort for the most serious cases. But as a male I feel uncomfortable making a decision over a woman's most private of property.
The thing with abortion is that women will have it done whether legal or illegal. The wisest thing to do would be to make it as safe as possible for those women who do make that difficult choice. A return to the back alley clinics would be a bad move don't you think?
Anti death penalty.
I don't agree with sanctioning the government to murder it's citizens. I also don't agree with an eye for an eye. A little too close to that Sharia law you hate so much.
With regards to abortion. I think my best answer is this. Women will have abortions whether you and I like it or not. To make the practice illegal, just means those women who do and will choose to have an abortion will have to go to the dodgy back alley surgeries which are dangerous and a are best left in the pages of history.
With regards to you other points, we are all guilty of hypocrisy, whether we are on the right or left of the political spectrum. To accuse only liberals of hypocrisy, is in itself hypocrisy.
I have a problem with many liberals, neo-liberals in particular. They can be their own worst enemy, just as the many conservatives we see here on ATS.
I just try not to get too hung up about peoples sexuality or that kids are taught about such things.
The gay right's movement is actually a very interesting part of American history. You should look at the Stonewall riots documentary. It's great to see how far gay people have come since it was illegal in 1969, not even a generation ago
My Muslim friends disagree with you.
Guess who I will defer to.
You say my Muslim friends want to kill me.
They have not killed me.
I believe them over you.
1) Homosexuality and Muslims - Devote Muslims kill homosexuals for being homosexual (fact). Yet, liberals support both the Homosexual agenda in America as well as Muslim Sharia Law. What gives?
2) Racism – (Hot topic these days…I know…I will tread lightly) It seems liberals keep the term “racists” alive. Why are vocal black democrats given praise by the left (Sharpton, Jackson, Rangel, Shiela Jackson Lee, etc) while vocal black conservatives (Clarence Thomas, Alan West, Herman Cain, etc) called names by the left?
Also, why do liberals continue to promote social programs that enslave blacks at poverty level? Left policies have NEVER led to black prosperity (Chicago, Detroit, ALL of California, etc are good examples) yet they get the majority of the black vote. What does the left offer that should inspire black Americans and keep their vote? I think the tide is turning, by the way. This video is a good illustration of what I’ve said.
3) Pro Women yet Anti Conservative Women – Liberals say they’re for women’s rights yet they destroyed Sarah Palin and her family in 2008. Liberals love Hillary but what did they have to say about Condoleezza?? Have liberals ever denounced all of the chauvinist remarks about Bachman?
4) Pro Abortion yet Anti-Death Penalty – Need I say more on this issue?
Some people are going to shoot up heroin so should we just make it legal and provide clean needles?
With all due respect that argument has no spine. You could say the same thing about a number of unacceptable things people do. Some people are going to shoot up heroin so should we just make it legal and provide clean needles? Come on!
they hired the jerk who helped bring the police state to Eastern Germany?
Yeah, that's exactly what I think we should do. They are going to do heroine if they want to, and I don't see why I should be paying taxes in order to incarcerate people in order to protect them from themselves.
So you would prefer homosexuality be kept in the closet, I understand that is the way Catholic priests prefer things as well.
And you claim you are for smaller government, when you are for the nanny state more than any liberal on this thread. Yep, you are a conservative.
How are you going to stop people taking heroin?
How are you going to stop women having abortions?
The only solutions you offer is make them illegal. Now, this has not worked in the past and will not work in the future.
Why punish drug addicts more? What punishment should there be for the heroin addict?
Why punish women even more when they have an abortion? What should be the right punishment for women who have abortions?
Is there any evidence to prove this point? You could include a broad swath of Americans who use social programs and then see if your point holds up or not. I believe that most social programs are not glamorous like some like to believe.
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by aries377
That said; I think most Liberals looked at Hillary and Bill as a "two for one." We aren't offended by a "pushy lady". The difference with Nancy Reagan running things (I always figured it was H W Bush -- but whatever), is that this lady doesn't know much of anything and consults a mystic for any hard questions. Reagan was senile MOST of his time in office. Either Bill or Hillary had the hutzpah to run things, but neither Nancy nor mentally challenged Ronny could do much more than sound thoughtful for a camera.
Yeah, what most republicans/conservatives don't know or choose not to remember is that Reagan, for most of his second term, had to be re-introduced to his entire cabinet every day. He couldn't even remember people that he appointed to positions of power. Yeah, Nancy did help to run the country quite a bit, and not very good I may say. "Trickle Down Economics" Really??? Just a way for the PTB to make more money for themselves, and screw the every day working class man/woman.
Originally posted by seabag
This statement makes me wonder what kind of world liberals want to live in. Nobody can do any wrong in this utopia. How can you do wrong when everything is legal? Whatever makes individuals happy, huh?