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So...An American Couple Comes Into My Canadian Store... True Story

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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by BIHOTZ
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I am glad to hear that I can count on Canada as well as Mexico if I ever need to leave the states forever.



The North American Union (being completed in secret as I type this) will make any talk of "going to Mexico or Canada" moot.

Welcome to Region #1 of the coming 10 kingdoms of the earth.




posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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Canada did suffer a "brain drain" during the boom, where our smartest and most well educated were heading for the US for the big bucks (maybe not as smart as they thought?), and it would be nice to turn the tide, and they, you, as an American, can always go back when and if the US becomes the US again, as it ought to and was intended to be.

Can US citizens make landed immigrant status applications when they cross the boarder? I don't see why not since people do it from every other part of the world..

So if you decide to bolt and move to Canada, you are most definitely welcome, and we need you, to help us steer free as much as possible from what we don't want, which is to become just like the US. It's important to differentiate Canada. We don't entirely know who we are. eh, but we do know who and what we are not and will not tolerate.

The American people just need to start exercising their rights and their power, by bombarding congress, and then watch as things start to change for the better.

So there's new possibility, for both countries, imo, but in Canada, you can both disappear and find yourself again at the same time, while being warmly recieved, except in Toronto and Vancouver..



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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:42 PM
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Americans, while proclaiming to be #1 in every aspect, claiming the greatest freedoms, the greatest democracy, etc etc etc, are amongst the most ignorant people on the planet as far as a global view.

Canadians in general have a much more global view of events and pay a lot more attention to what's going on around us.

I've met Americans who were absolutely convinced that they have the best health care in the world. When I asked this one stewardess I was chatting with on a recent flight from Seattle if she wouldn't mind sharing her healthcare costs, she was very "proud" to tell me that her and her husband *only* paid $1800 a month for their joint plan. She asked what I paid. When I told her "$68 a month", she was stunned. We compared coverage (there were only about a half dozen people on the flight so she didn't have much to do, and I was right up front), and she was even more stunned to find out that I'm covered for MORE than she was.

Americans are always amazed to find out that what they consider "the best" really isn't when they talk to people from outside the USA.
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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Americans, while proclaiming to be #1 in every aspect, claiming the greatest freedoms, the greatest democracy, etc etc etc, are amongst the most ignorant people on the planet as far as a global view.


Technically, Canada is a part of North America, and are therefore Canadians are technically Americans. One can fall back on the "you know what I meant" argument and claim the world over views "Americans" as being people of the United States, but such a view is ignorant.






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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:52 PM
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Let's not be too "braggy" though, it's not the Canadian way.


We love you people of the USA, and we've been here all along fighting tooth and nail with and for you the whole way, so in that sense we're all brothers in arms standing firmly in opposition against all manner of corruption, crony-capitalism (weighted in favour of the crony), and even, yes, wickedness in high (low) places. We feel for you, and want the US back the way it was, but better, like a lost friend returned (from a nightmare).

There's something slightly better in the winds of change and history, I feel it, being the eternal optimist that I am, so maybe it's too soon to see in its entirety the "writing on the wall", maybe there's still hope (and by hope I don't mean simply a slogan personified by Barack Obama lol), and the hope is in you, as an American citizen, and the dream (the good one) is not lost, never to return, that's too absurdly pessimistic and cynical a POV to take seriously, because all is not said and done, and a new history, is always possible.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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cool story but, borders do mean something. You can't have wide open borders, there has to be a process and a structure in place. In america i disagree with how the system works, it takes too long, understaffed probably and very inefficient. If we had an efficient way for people to come in and out of the country in a orderly way then there wouldn't be so many illegals. I live in a state where illegal immigration is a problem and i am friends with a lot of illegals. I tell them I don't agree with how they did it, i understand their situation that they need to provide for their families and the immigrant system is screwed up but hey you can't just come here without regard to our system and laws. One of my friends said that it would take years for him to do it properly which at the time i didn't know so i kinda understand why they do it, so thats why i really support america having a more efficient immigration system in place where people can quickly come and go without the huge time sinks.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:58 PM
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Hi, thanks for the post.

Speaking as a Canadian with many American friends, i have to admit im very happy knowing that some of them are aware of whats going on around them.... and by no means am i saying that my Canadian friends are more knowledgeable, they are blind/deaf just like the majority.

I've actually had to remove some of them from my Facebook friends list, and some friends even delete me as a friend because of the current event news i will post on my page. For example i linked a few articles from the MSM about how Google and all those social sites admittedly spy on us, and how the CIA wants to use (or is already using) household items to spy on the public... well some of my friends personally attacked ME. So i just dont know what to say to that kind of mentality. I think those people are more dangerous to me than terrorists will ever be.

While so many people are staying willfully ignorant, im happy to hear to some people are awake lol.


Cheers~



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 04:03 PM
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I worked at a tourist trap in Toronto that used to (pre SARS, pre 9/11) do a roaring trade hosting American "conventions" of all sorts. In my time there I saw thousands of Americans in a party venue over a period of more than a dozen years. I probably saw "tens of thousands" of American visitors to Toronto in a space where they could be observed very thoroughly. And I was the observer, the security guard whose job it was to keep an eye out for rule infractions, safety issues, sobriety issues, altercations, etc., etc., etc.

In that time I never saw the so called "Ugly American." Never.

What I did see was nice, polite, happy, friendly, respectful, people, out for a good time, yes, but not out to disturb anyone in any way or to cause any sort of disruption to anything. They were a pure pleasure to deal with and where I worked, we loved dealing with them.

It is a sad thing when Americans have to start to consider getting out of America. Personally, I think that anyone, foreign or domestic who starts putting pressure on the quality of people I saw in my work, is making a serious mistake.

God bless our wonderful neighbors.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by kman420
Oh and about guns in Canada, of course we have insane laws about handguns, doesnt mean you cant buy one and still keep it loaded under your pillow. Your just "not allowed"....

I can still keep a shotgun in my bedroom "legally" but chances are pretty high you will never even have to reach for it... I mean, even the few home invasions that happen here, many of them arnt armed with guns, and have 0 intent to kill unless you were the actuall target... We dont see many handguns, or even hear many gunshots, so youd be surprised how effective just pulling out a gun can be... let alone taking a warning shot.

In the worst case scenario, for example, i had a friend who collected a debt by force, then the guy who owed him the money, who he beat up a few days before, came to his house with a bunch of friends and were waiting out his window telling him to come outside (to get # kicked). So my friend loaded his "illegaly owned" shotgun, pointed it out the window at the would be attacker and litterally painted the wall with his face. he was charged with manslaughter in self defence, sentenced to 4 years and served 3. Now if he shot the guy in the leg, he would have gotten assult with a deadly weapon in self defence and gotten under 2 years, Or if he came outside and shot him again (not that he neede to) he would have prolly gotten charged with murder and gotten 10 years.

You can get off on self defence here, but its as impossable as proving without a doubt that you had no choice but to do what you did, and you never intended to kill them, and they died from only your "defending wounds"...

Another funny example, one time me and some of my friends beat the crap out of a known pedaphile right on mainstreet, my one friend was beating him with a tire iron, the cops were called and we were picked up a few blocks away and taken to the police station, where a cop talked to us about the person being a known pedaphile, and in his exaclt words he said, "if it was me, i woulda done worse to him" and then he let us all go wihout charges.

So yes, we have insane gun and defence laws, but, our cops are pretty fair for the most part, and you will be charged accordingly. I even once had a cop tell me i can legally detain someone on my property aslong as i only use "justifiable force", its just hard to justify putting a clip into someone who wasnt armed... where it seems allot easier in the US, and sorry but i dont see that as a good thing.
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The problem with Canadian gun laws is that they are invasive and make it difficult for law abiding citizens to own fire arms (and illegal for them to carry as protection). From the sounds of it, you and your friends wouldn't be considered "law abiding", so obviously you see no problem with the current state of Canadian law.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 04:26 PM
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The criminal community is never bothered by ordinances. If the Russian mafia could survive Stalin, they can survive anything.

What bugs me about Canadian law is the current "No Smoking" nuttiness.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Hello ATS,

been following this website for sometime now... This is a fantastic nice and anonymous everyday account of conversation and how more & more people are alert and becoming interested in the big issues facing us. I have literally hundreds of examples of these experiences and I don't know which one to pick for you all. However I will say that you have to pick your moments carefully and you have to observe.

I have learnt in 10 years that there are several types of people you will encounter.

1. Too busy in day to day life to even question anything. Don't want to know only concerned with what they can do, and consequently judge you for "having your head in the clouds"...weatherwars.info ....
2. Concerned with mainstream health issues, can clearly see corruption but fail to understand that we are that overpopulated where we can take down elites and corrupt governments overnight. They fail to understand investments in Gold and silver. But if you spend time with these people you can really help them. I cannot believe how many fail to understand flouride and aspartame, just explaining these to parents, kicks in survival mode and starts to remove ignorance and make positive changes.
3. Completely open and aware and usually can share something new with you that you havent looked at in the rabbit hole.
4. Still religious believing in a creator god rather than creation in its entiretly. We are in an age of knowledge opposed to belief. Yet these people have virtually all avenues sorted.
5. Still believe government is incomeptent as opposed purposefully corrupt.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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I was born and raised in Minnesota (Thief River Falls to be more specific), about 30 miles from the Canadian border. I currently live in Colorado. Been here since 94. I still communicate with my brethren to the north.

I do have a problem with the issues related to the southern border. The situation with the border in the north is much different than what we have going on to the south.

With the influx of illegals from the south, there’s been a strain on our economy. I would like to look at us all as “one big happy family”, but I cannot help but hold discontent towards people who take advantage of what we have here in the states. I live in Denver, which is a sanctuary city. I am a white male, and I am becoming the minority.

The following is only one example of what is happening in America…

I have posted this before, and I think it appropriate to post it here as well.
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There are the free loaders who know how to take advantage of the system. There is a family who lives down the road from us. While I struggle to make money for my family, they are living off the high hog.

Don’t ask me how I know. I’ll just say that I have my ways. This is what they have…

1.$1100.00 in food stamps a month for 4 kids (mother pregnant again).
2.Medicaid.
3.HUD housing.
4.Pal grant checks for school loans.
5.3 different business names under their address. (All fake).
6.$40,000 Lexus with “I love Obama” (in Spanish) bumper sticker on back.
7.$50,000 truck with $6,000 wheels and rims.

I have argued with people about the food stamp amount allowed here in Adams County Colorado. When you have 20 people living under the roof of a 4 bedroom home, they manage to find a way to get it. This is how they get $1100.00 in food stamps. The illegal Mom tells Social services that she has 7 kids instead of 4, and instead of going out of the way to find proof, they go by hearsay. Many have been busted for doing this, but there are very little resources to follow thru on most of the accusations.

I have called Adams Social Services on numerous occasions about this family of 20, and they more or less treat me like a racist. I have on one occasion gone in to complain about them; it took them a 20 minutes to find someone who could speak English. When I went in, there was one (1) white family of three waiting in line to get help. I can tell you with 100% accuracy that 9 out of 10 people waiting in line to get help were illegal. There were a good 50 to 60 people waiting to get help.

My older son used to get along with one of the kids from the family. That was until we found out he was dealing drugs.

And WHO is paying for all the above? The middle class! Makes me SICK!

More people come in and out of their house than the local Wal-Mart. Police are there regularly for dog and rooster fights. All the illegal actions are blamed on the underage kids so the adults don’t receive jail time. System lenient on kids because they are minors and illegal. They only get probation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am soooo tired of paying these peoples way in life! It is MY money! MY TAXES that are giving them a free ride!

The story you mentioned was pretty neat. I think we all can learn something from one another anywhere in the world. I noticed that Canadians love to talk politics. I debate with my freinds up north about what happens here in the quite often.

S&F...

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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Would you be on the Montana side or the Wisconsin side(I'm in a cold place right now, not as cold as Canada though) ? If I'm cold here, Canada would be too cold, let's just say that. I bet the winters are even longer and more frostbitten than this place. I'm guessing there is a reason more Americans aren't sliipping quietly over the border to find haven in Canada. I can think of at least one, and that would be that Canada already has socialized health care and now so does the US(or on it's way now, and who knows maybe even more Draconian than yours). Two, it's colder.
Meanwhile, on the serious side, since you seem so knowledgeable on OWS, I wonder if you thought that couple were trying to escape the President's Hope and Change or if you thought the President's Hope and Change is to be escaped from? Because clearly the Prez and his cronies supported OWS. I'm really not sure why you think the World Banking system isn't systemic enough to affect Canadians? I mean your PM is just as involved in this NWO stuff as our Prez.
Now, I appreciate that you liked some Americans enough to welcome them to Canada, but what if streams of people suddenly decided to flow over possibly a million a year and flooded into all the hotels, hospitals, and all the JOBS? What if they all started collecting on that socialist health care at your expense? Would you feel the same? Would you feel the love if after 10 more years 20 million more Americans had crossed into your territory and taken whatever jobs were available with your PM and Parliament saying don't worry we will just give them a pathway and whatever other stuff they want?
Just curious if one or two Americans are ok but 2 million would also be ok?


Good questions and I'll try to answer them for you in one fell swoop...


I don't understand how so many people think that Canada is so cold. Sure it can be as we go further North but when you understand that over 3/4 of our population lives within 90 miles of the border, how can it be colder than all your border states? It isn't. In fact some areas are warmer such as the Okanagan, Van. Island etc. No snow even. (well hardly).

The welcoming 2 million people issue is a great question and it's simple to answer. If that did happen tomorrow, it means one thing...The S has truly HTF and it wouldn't matter. People would be going into the Country side, Mountains etc. Americans and Canadians alike. Health care wouldn't matter, banking, schooling, jobs...all gone in that scenario.

We have a lot of space here. Lots of water, fish, trees etc. 2 million more people in Canada would be like a flea on a dog's ass. Not even noticeable.

So would I still welcome that many people? Absolutely. Would I help a family with shelter if needed? Again, yes. How could I not?

We would all be in the crapper anyways. Why would it matter if someone came from 90 miles away across an invisible border to try and disappear into the vastness?

Peace



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by scratcher
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reading your post was intense, in a good way. Now ,i dont speak for all aussies , we are all welcoming as the OP is, but leave your baggage at home if you need to venture into the southern hemisphere to escape a nuclear winter.


New Zealand and the Aussies are nothing but experiments for the NWO. They (along with South Africa) are Region 4 of the coming ten kingdoms of the earth.

The son of perdition is coming ....... and so is Jesus ...... guess who already has won?



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by jude11


The conversation starts to end and then the suspicion that I had from the beginning came into play. They asked me a “Hypothetical” question. “If someone were to come to Canada and decide to never leave, is it possible?” I knew it!

And of course I answered “Welcome to Canada!”

This is a true story BTW and thought I’d share it here on ATS because, well it just fits. I have no idea whether they are still here or if they are returning to the US to prepare to leave for good but they were relieved at being welcomed by a complete stranger into another Country as a possible illegal.


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So is the implication being made that moving to Canada would remove them from such problems? Because last I checked, Canada embraces Monsanto as well, and is actively taking part in all the same wars of Empire as the US,like Afghanistan, Libya, etc.

I just dont understand how someone could think moving from the US to Canada would change any of those problems.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck


In a SHTF scenario a bunch of city slickers running into the Canadian wilderness would mean a horrible winter where most would die of exposure to the elements.


What American cities full of 'city slickers' are even remotely close to Canadian 'wilderness' to 'run into'?

Seattle is a several-hour drive from the Canadian border, and that border is in now way 'wilderness'. Straight east from Seattle would be far more assessable than sprawl of the lower mainland. And what about the North East? Detroit isn't near any Canadian 'wilderness'. It's closer to American 'wilderness' than Canadian.

And why are Canadians under the impression that their country is somehow different than the US in terms of politics, etc? Canada has a majority Conservative government that does whatever the US tells them to do. Their militaries are aligned, and the North American security acts recently signed only strengthen that.

So, please, help me understand how 'escaping' to Canada would be any kind fo change if the "SHTF"

Thank you in advance for helping me understand this perspective.

Good day.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 06:15 PM
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S & F for your post that was a great read. But honestly, i find it really naive that this couple thinks that moving to Canada is going to be a safer bet than living in the USA. Unless they move somewhere very secluded and far away from civilization as possible.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 06:22 PM
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I like that story.

Did the Americans stay do you know.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by rigel4
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I like that story.

Did the Americans stay do you know.


I have no idea as I mentioned in another post below the OP. I don't know if they kept moving North or headed back home to the US.

I did see that they were in a car and not a truck as one would have in order to take as much as possible...or not. Fewer questions at the border if it looks like a day trip.

Peace



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by nusnus
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S & F for your post that was a great read. But honestly, i find it really naive that this couple thinks that moving to Canada is going to be a safer bet than living in the USA. Unless they move somewhere very secluded and far away from civilization as possible.


When people are faced with a situation that threatens their way of life or even their very life, anywhere else looks safer IMO.

As for secluded and far away from civilization...we have that in abundance here.


Peace



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