Is this proof Alex Jones is a disinfo agent?, page 1

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Topic started on 7-4-2012 @ 11:37 AM by schadenfreude

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I don't know how to start a video to the exact min/sec to where I am referring to, however if you go to 1:57:14 in the above video, you will hear the last call of the show and know what I am talking about. (Caller's name is Paul)

I know there is a love/hate relationship here (and most places) concerning Alex Jones, and where he really stands, and for the most part, this isn't another one of THOSE threads. (Hopefully)

What concerns me is this last caller. There have been few callers with such a plan that just seperates itself from the chaff as this guy does. Basically the caller calls in offering to donate a thousand dollars for a war chest, and then asks Alex to mention on his show the idea of a million more people to do the same, ultimately to gain 1 billion dollars to use against the NWO in terms of news stories, defense against those arrested by the machine,and for other reasons/causes. This caller is proactive, and we all need to be, b/c sitting on our ARSE will accomplish nothing. (Frankly neither will talking something to death, or our "representatives)

The reason for this thread, and the question, is how Alex responds, it is nothing short of unbelievable. Alex goes on a 5 minute tirade about how this isn't even remotely possible. How he is only one man, and how he only has a "ragtag crew" involved in the first place, and how antiquated his equipment is. (I wish I had the time to type out the transcript so you all could see how utterly silly these excuses sound)

What sticks out the most however, to me, is when he mentions Ron Paul, and how he is on the front lines, etc, and his knowledge. Ron is no economics expert, but he does delegate, and IIRC, that person would be Peter Schiff. So Ron sends Q&A over to Peter, Peter faxes back a condensed version, and Ron gets the info out. This is how it is done, no one expects you to be an expert on everything, and this is why you delegate. (The caller himself says as much.) And we're supposed to believe these lame-as excuses that are being given.

The other more carnal, real world thing that I find just as perplexing, for all practical purposes, it SOUNDS like Jones is talking himself out of a thousand dollars! Why would he do this? Why would ANYONE do this? It makes NO sense.

CAN WE PLEASE JUST FOCUS ON THIS BROADCAST AND THIS LAST CALLER? I am not interested in all the connotations/stories/theories Alex represents and has said. I don't care about chemtrails, 9/11, or the OKC bombing. (Ok, i am, but not for this discussion)

Am I reading/hearing this wrong? Does this last caller, and Alex's response sound "funny"? Is there backtracking involved here, or am I just being paranoid?

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reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 11:50 AM by PutAQuarterIn

I'm no defender of Alex Jones..BUT..Probably a smart idea not to publicly support someone fitting the description of 'domestic terrorist'. I understand wanting to change the world but how do you know this caller isn't trying to start a radical group of some sort? I'm not sure how it works but don't you need some sort of license to collect donations as well?

ETA: I could be totally off the mark on this one, just a gut feeling.

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reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 11:57 AM by Drew99GT

From my listening to his show, most of the callers have an IQ range somewhat north of a bagel. I'm guessing the caller you mentioned fits into that category.

No, I don't think AJ is a pure disinfo agent. He has legit guests on like Steve Pieczenik, Judge Napolitano, CO Anthony Schaffer etc., on a regular basis. He's for sure a self centered blow hard who acts really strange sometimes though, almost like he gets Tourettes at times. Obviously many of his predictions and huffing and puffing never comes to fruition, but his basic premise that a group of wealthy elite individuals who are corrupt to the core in many cases, run the western world behind the scenes, is pretty accurate.

reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 11:57 AM by VisitorQ

reply to post by schadenfreude

It's not possible to "fake" the kind of hardcore passion and dedication that has driven Alex Jones all these years. Disinfo agents are not passionate about their job. To them it is just a job.

Alex Jones is not perfect and does not claim to be. He is a guy who believes in what he is doing and is dedicated and passionate abut it. A lot of people could learn from that. When you run a live daily radioshow and don't screen calls "odd things" are bound to happen sometimes. And people automatically always jump to the conclusion that he is a "disinfo agent" whenever something a little odd happens. Have you ever had a bad day at work? I mean, this is his daily job, his life...

reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 11:59 AM by violence=answer

reply to post by schadenfreude

all legal non violent terms? who makes those laws? aj is a joke who doesnt want change

reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:03 PM by JibbyJedi

Sounds to me like Alex is saying that the NWO is too big to stop by throwing money at it. They have all the money, so that is a futile venture. I find the caller funny. Money isn't everything, people power is, like Alex said.

It's like watching the police beat and taser children in the street. The majority of people will stand by and watch chanting "shame on you" while they wet themselves in fear. Real patriots will jump in and pull the police off those children, but those real patriots look around for others who will have their backs and see the fear on everyone's faces. It's a suicide mission without the majority supporting those actions.

reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:03 PM by gladtobehere

reply to post by schadenfreude

What a bizarre call. A million people to donate a thousand dollars to fund lawyers via a legal fund? Obama finally booked a million individual donors and that was with the national main stream corporate propaganda matrix shoving Obama down our throats.

That is a VERY DIFFICULT thing to accomplish. Alex is on 100 stations. It doesn't even begin to compare to the national propaganda matrix.

With regards to what he said about Ron Paul, if Alex or the caller want real change, they need to pump Ron Paul to the very end. The man is our only hope against a dystopic police state.

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reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:06 PM by schadenfreude

And how many of you actually took the time to LISTEN to the part I was referring to before commenting?

I'm asking a specific question about a specific caller, and Alex's specific response, not generalities.

and I'm asking a question, I am not badmouthing Jones here, he helped me get out of the left/right paradigm as he has alot of other ppl i'm sure.

It's just that the way he treated this callers idea that has me really bothered, which is why I asked the question in the first place.

reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:08 PM by TheLieWeLive

reply to post by VisitorQ

A lot of people are passionate about their job. Let's not forget that Alex Jones makes more money than a lot of us put together. I could get passionate myself making the kind of jack he most likely is raking in with just advertising. I'm not saying he doesn't put things together but I just can't fully trust Mr. Jones. I've seen him get all worked up over what came out to be nothing.

When someone throws just enough truth at you and then sneaks in B.S. at times, I tend to wonder their real motives. I know he can't get it right all the time but I still see a snake oil salesmen behind the curtain.

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reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:11 PM by corporation

All you need to know about Alex Jones
www.youtube.com...

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reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:15 PM by TheLieWeLive

reply to post by corporation

Wow, thanks for that video!

Alex Jones officially

reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:17 PM by juleol

reply to post by schadenfreude

Do you even know how much money a billion dollar is?? I watched this video myself and cant really blame alex for being skeptical about this. It is a good intention from the caller, but it is just not realistic. Even alex says that it is a very interesting idea and how he might be able to raise up to 15 million.

I don't see how being a realist makes you a disinfo agent..

reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:17 PM by JAY1980

The simple fact he is still alive tells me there is something off. People like William(Bill) Cooper and Aaron Russo were silenced by TPTB for what they said. So why not Alex? He has to be playing for the other team. Pay no attention to the man behing the star spangled curtain.

Sorry op can't comment on the video you posted i'm at work and can't hear the audio.

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reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:20 PM by mark1167

reply to post by schadenfreude

I think sometimes Alex just overloads and gets flustered. I listened to his whole show yesterday and I am still amazed at the fact that most of the people that call in are like the other poster said really not that smart. Most of them just want to hear themselves on the radio and never really offer much in new ways or ideas to battle the criminal elite. This guy might have thought it was a good idea , and maybe it could be but Alex encourages people to do these thing's on their own and fight the war on another front. Alex Jones has done us all a huge service, some might not like his delivery method but I think the way he hits people on the head with reality is the only way they will truly wake up. Most people say they are awake but thats it, then they do nothing to join the cause. Alex knows money won't do anything to fight this war. It's people doing things on their own that collectively make us all stronger. Claiming Alex could be a dis info agent based on this one call is a stretch. Remember your title? " Is this proof Alex jones is a dis info agent"? I understand where you might be coming from in your thinking but maybe the title opens you up for criticism that you do not deserve. The more Alex exposes us all to reality the more TPTB will vilify him and try to create any type of story to bring him down. Including the story that he is a dis info agent. Or maybe they will just wait until he has a heart attack like Breibert.

reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:20 PM by tsurfer2000h

reply to post by VisitorQ

Alex Jones is not perfect and does not claim to be. He is a guy who believes in what he is doing and is dedicated and passionate abut it.

Dedicated and passionate enough to not even do proper research on things?

Example...

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He didn't have enough passion to talk to the company that manufactures the coffin liners,because if he did he would have actually found out the truth. Yet that wouldn't get him a sensational story now would it?

reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:22 PM by bulldetector

I don't think he is 36 years of age for a start. Who is he?

reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:24 PM by lambros56

Originally posted by TheLieWeLive
reply to post by VisitorQ

A lot of people are passionate about their job. Let's not forget that Alex Jones makes more money than a lot of us put together. I could get passionate myself making the kind of jack he most likely is raking in with just advertising. I'm not saying he doesn't put things together but I just can't fully trust Mr. Jones. I've seen him get all worked up over what came out to be nothing.

When someone throws just enough truth at you and then sneaks in B.S. at times, I tend to wonder their real motives. I know he can't get it right all the time but I still see a snake oil salesmen behind the curtain.
edit on 7-4-2012 by TheLieWeLive because: (no reason given)

I don't agree with you at all.
Alex Jones makes two shows a day ( TV and radio) which last for four hours or more.
He fronts them and also makes videos.

Membership to prison planet is around six dollars a month and members can let up to five friends login from that one membership.
That works out a dollar each.

Where else on the Internet can you get a deal that cheap.
You can't knock the production of the show neither.

All this cost money and I think anyone who subscribes to his show are getting a bargain.

reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:25 PM by VisitorQ

reply to post by TheLieWeLive

Did he make money in the beginning, in the first years? The answer is no. His passion drove him to where he is today. And does he look like a guy who's into "money and fame" to you? Look at his clothes...

Only idiots trust fully in anything other than themselves. He is not asking you to trust him, he is asking you to get off your ass and investigate his claims.

Seems to me unconsciously people are looking for a "leader/savior" and when people discover AJ is not the "perfect" manifestation of that unconscious wish, they start hating him for it. Alex Jones has broken the conditioning of millions of people and woken them up. What have you done lately?

To believe a guy can keep all this passion up for all these years just to "make money" (as if when he started out there wasn't better ways to make a quick buck than talk on the radio about something most people would laugh about and label crazy) or as a dis-info agent is ridiculous. It's an insult to your own intelligence in my humble opinion.

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reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:26 PM by mark1167

reply to post by corporation

Hahaha....such a heavily edited video. I could make Mickey mouse look bad with that kind of manipulation.
That's no proof of anything but good editing.

reply posted on 7-4-2012 @ 12:29 PM by TheLieWeLive

reply to post by lambros56

Your forgetting about his advertisers. The ads posted all over his websites aren't for free. You would have to pay me to listen to his raspy voice all day.

Infowars Online shopping nothing free here either.

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