posted on Apr, 28 2012 @ 12:09 AM
Originally posted by dowot
Japan trying for German/Russian peace? That's new, where is that bit of info. from?
I uncovered a Russian site,
Which on page 2 shows an underwater launch of a rocket, sorry I have no idea what it says about it, but go to page 3 and there is an illustration of
an underwater, towed by sub, rocket.
If that was for real, surely that would have been a better way to bomb the US?
I did see an illustration that the bomb from the "Silverbird" would create an explosion likened to the effect of an atom bomb. Looks like they
almost had a full scale mock up built, hidden in Lofer (Spelling may be off) which the US uncovered.
When you start digging you find so much.
Keep going Sy, the truth will out someday and it will surprise I am sure.
Yes the missile systems were for real. The Russian web site is really just discussing all the launch sites used for testing various rockets,
Peenemunde plus other sites in Poland etc. They were debating whether the rocket launched from beneath the water was a V-2 launched by a towed
My own view is no, it was a Wurzkorpfer artillery rocket designed for coastal bombardment by U-boats in defence of the trapped German garrison Crimean
in early 1944. the Germans had a small fleet of type II -boats in the Black Sea.
The towed V-2 capsule code named Miranda was intended for towing to the sea off New York. One prototype version was built and tested in the Baltic and
in trials from Horten Norway. The problems associated however included that U-boats had to get within 200 nautical miles of new York and survive there
on the surface for 30 minutes whilst the Lafferenz capsule was turned vertical then the rocket's fuel tanks were filled. Some of the fuel was
hypergolic meaning any leaks would cause an instant explosion. The final factor was that hydrogen peroxide needed to drive fuel pumps would
deteriorate in the long voyage and be useless by the time the launch point was reached.
For this reason a new slightly larger version of the V-2 called the A8 missile was developed to use nitric acid and diesel fuel. This required
building enlarged Lafferenz capsules. The Soviets captured three of these larger capsules under construction at Stettin in the eastern Baltic. The A8
had it ever been used would have had a special guidance system for homing on to a radio beacon. It could I imagine have simply tuned in to a broadcast
radio station in New York.
The silverbird or sanger-bredt design was one of three non-aircraft rocket designs in competition to bombard NY. The others were the A9/A10 two stage
Amerika Rakete with a winged upper stage designed to glide across the Atlantic from high altitude skipping over the atmosphere.
Lastly was the Trommsdorff D-6000 delta winged ramjet cruise missile. It could have been launched by aircraft at 8000 metres altitude but given the
lack of air superiority and aviation fuel by 1945 it was then planned to use it from the same launch track with rocket boost that silverbird was to
A launch track was built in northern France near Abbeville in 1943, but this immediately attracted attention from Allied aircraft. It was captured by
Patton in 1944. The Nazis then built an underground track from Jonstal Valley near Arnstadt which ran west near Ohrdruf to emerge from inside a
mountain. I came across an account by locals of a strange small aircraft seen flying from the side of this mountain at night late in the war. Most
inhabitants were forced into communal bomb shelters at night and strange sights were only witnessed by those who disobeyed marshal law curfews.