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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff
So to all of you who think income tax should be abolished where should the government get money from?
The so called "Personal Income Tax" was created in 1913. The federal government was created in 1789. Are you under the impression that for the first 124 years the federal government operated on a volunteer basis and no revenue was collected?
First off personal income tax wasnt created in 1913 that was the Federal Reserve... you know the privately owned bank that LENDS america its own money with an INTEREST rate attached to it..
The United States Revenue Act of 1913 also known as the Tariff Act, Underwood Tariff, Underwood Tariff Act, or Underwood-Simmons Act (ch. 16, 38 Stat. 114, October 3, 1913), re-imposed the federal income tax following the ratification of the Sixteenth Amendment and lowered basic tariff rates from 40% to 25%, well below the Payne-Aldrich Tariff Act of 1909. It was signed into law by President Woodrow Wilson on October 3, 1913, and was sponsored by Alabama Representative Oscar Underwood.
In 1913, the Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution made the income tax a permanent fixture in the U.S. tax system.
the Amendment contains nothing repudiation or challenging the ruling in the Pollock Case that the word 'direct' had a broader significance, since it embraced also taxes levied directly on personal property because of its ownership, and therefore the Amendment at least impliedly makes such wider significance a part of the Constitution,-a condition which clearly demonstrates that the purpose was not to change the existing interpretation except to the extent necessary to accomplish the result intended; that is, the prevention of the resort to the sources from which a taxed income was derived in order to cause a direct tax on the income to be a direct tax on the source itself, and thereby to take an income tax out of the class of excises, duties, and imposts, and place it in the class of direct taxes.
by the previous ruling it was settled that the provisions of the 16th Amendment conferred no new power of taxation, but simply prohibited the previous complete and plenary power of income taxation possessed by Congress from the beginning from being taken out of the category of indirect taxation to which it inherently belonged
So, what do we do about it?
(14) Taxpayer The term “taxpayer” means any person subject to any internal revenue tax.
(b) Taxpayer Notwithstanding section 7701 (a)(14), the term “taxpayer” means any person subject to a tax under the applicable revenue law.
Drop your income to the barest minimum for a few years. Starve the fat cow.
Originally posted by CosmicEgg
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Yes, well, I think there are plenty of wealthy people in prison because they didn't pay their taxes (just google that and you'll see). The tax authorities of whatever country determine who pays what. Not everyone can or will be wealthy. Not everyone is in hot pursuit of money. For those of us with a different fate, this way works better and has immediate results. We need results now, not in some imaginary future where new tax laws apply - even retroactively, if they so choose.
What we need is to get government and all its fingers out of our pies. We need to control government, not the other way around. Government of, by, and for the people.
Show me it's not poor English.
Considering America is the world super power the number of Americans who have a passport, according to the most recent statistics issued by the State Department in January of 2012, is 117,014,020. Given the country’s population of 311,591,917, that means about 38% of the American population has a passport. This means nearly 2 out of 3 Americans can’t even fly to Canada, let alone travel to anywhere else in the world.