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Chemtrail's, why no lab proof.

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posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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I know all forms of modern transportation pollute with Cancer causing by-products!
I am just questioning why a certain group in the Airline industry,
spend 24 hours a day trying to claim theirs is less dangerous then any other.
When we need all forms just to board a plane.




posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
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So are you claiming that the industry,
also drives to work, and its customers,
and is hook up to the power grid?

And may be more polluting then any other industry,
because it relies on all others and their forms of pollution?

Can you proof no coal is used in power for the airline industry?

Can you prove no vehicle transportation is used to transfer goods and customers to Airports?


Huh??

What I claim is that the list of pollutants you presented is not something that is unique to planes that leave visible trails.

It is also from planes that lave invisible trails, and also from any other combustion of hydrocarbons.

Therefore why single out planes that are leaving visible trails?

How about answering that fairly simple question, rather than trying to befuddle the discussion.



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
I know all forms of modern transportation pollute with Cancer causing by-products!
I am just questioning why a certain group in the Airline industry,
spend 24 hours a day trying to claim theirs is less dangerous then any other.


Who says aircraft pollution is less dangerous than any other?

You seem to be suggesting that "chemtrails" are pollution - in which case wouldn't that be true whether they weer visible or not, so, again, why concentrate on aircraft that are leaving visible trails, when they are leaving the same pollution even when they are NOT making visible trails?
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posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:16 PM
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I get it, there is Cancer causing chemicals, in Contrails.


This has a better chance of killing you before contrails do.



or this



and for sure this...




posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 


So are you claiming that the industry,
also drives to work, and its customers,
and is hook up to the power grid?

And may be more polluting then any other industry,
because it relies on all others and their forms of pollution?

Can you proof no coal is used in power for the airline industry?

Can you prove no vehicle transportation is used to transfer goods and customers to Airports?


How about answering that fairly simple question, rather than trying to befuddle the discussion.



I am stating Cancer causing chemicals that are involved in air transportation.
The OP asked, Chemtrail's, why no lab proof,
and it is,
with the info I got from you.
Why did you not give him a straight answer,
from the get-go?



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:23 PM
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I just re read the thread,
to confirm,
not a person identified the chemicals in a contrail,
and its possible dangers to living things,
Called Cancer.



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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I know all forms of modern transportation pollute with Cancer causing by-products! I am just questioning why a certain group in the Airline industry, spend 24 hours a day trying to claim theirs is less dangerous then any other. When we need all forms just to board a plane.


Again I will ask you how much do you think reaches the ground from 35000 ft up?

Have you ever seen a contrail fall to the ground?

With the winds at that height the contrail will be dispersed before it gets anywhere close to falling to the ground,and if any even does make it that far it will be in minute amounts so how many people have you ever heard of died from airplane exhaust?



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 


How about answering that fairly simple question, rather than trying to befuddle the discussion.



I am stating Cancer causing chemicals that are involved in air transportation.


Sure. And also in pretty much every other type of transportation too.

So, again, why concentrate on aircraft that leave visible trails, and ignore aircraft that do not leave visible trails?


The OP asked, Chemtrail's, why no lab proof,
and it is,
with the info I got from you.
Why did you not give him a straight answer,
from the get-go?


I didn't answer the OP - I answered a subsequent post listing some lab tests that had been done, showing how the claim that they prove "chemtrails" is wrong.

And I gave him direct links to that information.

How about you tell us why it is we should be so worried about visible aircraft trails??
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posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:28 PM
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I will respond when you show the quote of the first time I asked,
good luck you have forgotten who you speak to again.

So you believe what goes up,
can't come down?
But want us to believe the rest of your truths?



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
I just re read the thread,
to confirm,
not a person identified the chemicals in a contrail,
and its possible dangers to living things,
Called Cancer.


The OP wasn't about the makeup of a contrail. It was about lab proof of chemtrails.

Are you saying now that chemtrails are nothing but contrails?

And you didn't actually show us the make up of contrails - you showed us the makeup of jet exhaust - contrails are only water - the rest of the exhaust is invisible.



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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I am fine with that,
at least you admit you have an agenda,
and has nothing to do with thread.
I always show there is chemicals in contrails,
and wonder why you ridicule the fact that some call them chemtrails.



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posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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I just re read the thread, to confirm, not a person identified the chemicals in a contrail, and its possible dangers to living things, Called Cancer.


Pay attention starting at about the 5:18 mark and listen very carefully to what is said....




posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:32 PM
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So you believe what goes up, can't come down? But want us to believe the rest of your truths?


So you are going to dance around the question I see. I asked a fairly simple straight forward question and yet you decide to wiggle around it why is that?



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
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I just re read the thread, to confirm, not a person identified the chemicals in a contrail, and its possible dangers to living things, Called Cancer.


Pay attention starting at about the 5:18 mark and listen very carefully to what is said....



You pay attention

Is there Chemicals In a Contrail or Not?



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:38 PM
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I always show there is chemicals in contrails, and wonder why you ridicule the fact that some call them chemtrails


Wait now isn't there supposed to be large amounts of Barium and Aluminum in chemtrails?

That is what makes a chemtrail different from a contrail or are all other chemtrail believers just talking crap? Or do you not believe what all other chemtrail believers say makes up a chemtrail?

Funny how chemtrails seem to change as of late from being a depopulation mechanism to now geo engineering for global warming, what chemtrail believers can't even figure out what they do? Interesting..



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

I am fine with that,
at least you admit you have an agenda,
and has nothing to do with thread.


My agenda is to provide verifiable evidence, which is what the OP has asked for, and to debunk BS when it is posted.

Why do you think that has nothing to do with this thread?

And when are you going to answer my question??


I always show there is chemicals in contrails,


There are chemicals in your breath too.


nd wonder why you ridicule the fact that some call them chemtrails.


Because they say that chemtrails are not contrails - they are something in addition to or different from contrails.

Pretending contrails are chemtails because they contain chemicals is just stupid - chemtrails are supposedly secret, not "normal" contrails, to achieve some purpose.

Ignoring what chemtrails are supposed to be in order to prove that chemtrails exist in a trivial manner is a sophism.



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by Droidinvoid
Having uploaded numerous pix to ATS with contrails / chemtrails above my house , much to the annoyance of some members
. My question is There has never been any evidence of anyone collecting some of this "chemtrail" material in situ, having it tested by any reputable laboratory, and presented to anyone.
Does this still stand , the fact that Ryan Air started gathering air samples during the Icelandic volcano scenario that was grounding aircraft shows air data can be checked.

www.pmeasuring.com...

Why no big world news regarding testing and results.Plenty of small private planes around the world


I know that the trails above my house happen daily and look weird hanging in the sky for hours at a time.


So OP
there appears to be chemicals in the trails you see in the sky.

I think you can call them what ever you want.
Even if some feel it is not politically correct,
due to their arguments over a cap and trade tax,
or a personal fear of how it affects their industry.



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:41 PM
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Is there Chemicals In a Contrail or Not?


Nothing different then what your car exhaust has, pretty simple so why is a contrail more dangerous than a car exhaust which I think has already been asked.



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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Volume of fuel,
in tons compared to gallons,
How many cars does it take to equal 1 airplane flight?
I am all for getting rid of cars,
but that would really screw aircraft fuel up,
since it only gets 4 gallons out of every barrel of oil.



posted on Apr, 9 2012 @ 10:01 PM
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If we took all the smog in LA,
and spread it in a line at 35000 feet,
would it be longer then a contrail?
Spread as wide, won't fall back to earth?
But then we would have to prove,
that none of that smog was airport/plane generated.
How much of LA smog is Airport generated?



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