Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
I wish the authors could say they tried to get XX information from YY sources but that it was "too expensive and difficult" to perform the
declassification process. (That's what real researchers would do!)
Well, "real" researchers would have requested that the agency holding the data follow the EO and release it. There's a ton of classified data that
just hasn't gone through the motions to release, even though it's technically reverted to unclassified. The security office of the "owners" of the
data are supposed to read through the document and make sure nothing's in there that should persist. These days, you mark the document upon creation
as releasable upon expiration and it just happens. But for older stuff, they have to comb through it, which slows the process down. However, it's been
my experience that stuff like this they'll do for you on request. By law, it can't cost the requestor money - it's not a FOIA - and while they can be
buttholes and say "we'll get to it when we do" NASA doesn't tend to be one for that. The authors may have written the book before automatic
declassification, and just not gone back and followed up on it, thus my original question to you.
If the authors did come out and told us what XX information and YY sources... it might be considered a violation of the conditions of secrecy which
are still in effect for the XX information. If the existence of XX information were revealed, it might also put YY sources in danger.
While that sounds cool, it's not the way things usually work. What'll happen is that document A references document B, and then when you try to get
document B, you get a note that says "This information is classified or restricted, no further information is available". Well, you would. I'd get a
little bit more, like who the holding agency is, a contact name and number and what level of classification is involved. There's a metric crap ton of
"sensitive but unclassified" or "confidential" documents that are available upon request as long as distribution is not my intent.
If the information remains classified because it could potentially cause serious harm to the United States then it remains hidden.... to protect
something.... or to protect someone...
Or because it hasn't been gotten to yet by the review group...or because it was originally loosely connected to something sensitive so they classified
it too by reflex...like the drawing of the classified screwdriver that's on the wall outside my office....
edit to add: A lot of you "unwashed" non-Community® folk tend to think that all classified material is OMG run-around-in-circles info revealing
things You Need To Know, laden with UFO information, who killed Kennedy, and maps of tunnels between underground sex slave bases for the Nazi
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Those sorts of documents do exist, well, sort of - there's really not any reptilian overlords - but by far the bulk of this crap is so mundane that
you often can't figure out what it's classified for. I have, in my possession AT HOME, RIGHT NOW, outside the protective storage it calls for,
flaunting the laws of these here United States, a restricted document. It's classified. It's a very low level, to be sure, but it technically even now
should be under lock and key. And what it is - it's the Army drill sergeant's manual on how to do PT for new recruits. It's full of all sorts of info
that's hidden...to protect something...or someone....in this case, one of the secrets is the Secret of the Cadence.
If I'm running a bunch of you
guys around, I get you to sing/call cadence. And while that's keeping you concentrating on what you're doing and helping you to keep in step, I'm
listening to you. Because when more than half of you quit participating, it's time to slack the pace up, so I will surreptitiously slow it down myself
if I'm doing the call, or I'll run up to the guy that is and tell him to slow it a bit. There is a surprising amount of research that produces for me
this neat table that says for a large group, your cadence participation is related to your physical exhaustion in a certain way. And I don't want you
to sandbag me, so that manual is classified.
Now YOU are in on one of the Classified Secrets of the Army Drill Sergeant. See, you didn't think
anyone was paying attention when you started running out of wind and were just mouthing it.
Don't ask why I ended up with that. THAT is a Real Secret™
edit on 13-4-2012 by Bedlam because: (no reason given)