Originally posted by The Vagabond
The original plan was for America to build and donate the subs, but it was scrapped in 1990. Germany donated 2 dolphins and sold a third one. It is
certainly not beyond comprehension that Germany donated the subs by proxy for the US, and charged Israel for the one that the US wasn't paying
for.
To my mind, this makes a lot more sense than the idea that Germany was donating weapons to Israel just a few years after they (and france as well as
the USA) sold biological and chemical weapons to Iraq to be aimed at Israel. Germany also provided the centrifuges for Iraq to enrich
uranium.
Well, this paragraph isn't very flawless. It's more one big flaw. You take several assumptions and put them together to a very weired point of
view.
Could you help me and find news about the german government supporting Saddam Hussein with biological and chemical weapons?
I think your logic lacks the proof to be right. The USA supported Osama bin Ladin and various other people we and especially Israel really don't like
at all. Still they sold a lot of weaponry to Israel.
What moral forbids is still possible at all.
And yes, Saddam had a super-gun capable of firing payloads into space or rocket-assissted projectiles over 2000 miles (for wmd delievery). Although I
have heard Germany blamed for this in the past (and didn't find it hard to believe) I did a little reading before I replied, and it turns out that
the weapon was build by a british company expanding on the work of a canadian artillery expert named Bull.
Well, I am visiting ATS since more than a year and I can't remember anything like this. I heared a lot of stuff about German-Iraq relations but this
is something new. I guess also for the rest of the members.
Would you shed a light on it by pointing to the exact news? You seem to have the information about it. Thanks in advance.
Or did I interpret it wrong and you were basically saying that you once heared about Germany doing it and thought: Yes, could be. So be it. ?
Last thing:
Really you ignored my first (and probably more important) point regarding why I would not want Germany added to the council apart from an EU rotation
though.
No, I didn't. Read before you reply.
I like your post, also your idea about the EU seat. Your opinion is well thought and I can agree nearly wholehearly
(yes, I have a typo in
there...)
[edit on 26-9-2004 by shoo]