Time to Take Motor Vehicles Away From the American Public!

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posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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One and two sentence replies ("wisecracks") can kill good discussions Please be an example for our newer members and make every post matter.
ATS policy on comments that do not add to the discussion
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posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 08:55 AM
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Sure, they can take my truck. I'll even give it to them. I'll start with my front bumper.

They can even take my gun.......ammo first.

There.....how's that for sarcasm.





posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 08:56 AM
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Well Jean Paul, what a wonderful satire. I see that many folks just didn't get it. Shame they didn't.

As was said in one post, Guns as well as cars, are inanimate objects and without an interaction with people they are harmless. A good explaination of what the problem really is. The problem is that people won't take responsibility for their actions. We don't need the government to make silly laws to protect us. Whatever happened to being responsible for your own actions. Now it's always somebody elses fault. So everyone is sue crazy.

Clearly the problem lies with people. Doesn't the Constitution imply personal responsibility,by recognizing that we have naturally occcuring rights? Shouldn't we be driven to exercise those rights with a responsibility toward not harming others? Just having rights shouldn't mean that we can harm others by the exercising of those rights. What a conundrum. Irresponsible exercising of personal rights, without personal responsibility, and those same irresponsible people pushing the government to pass restrictive laws to remove those same rights.

Perhaps the answer is to ban people.



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 08:59 AM
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Lets just hand over all rights to the Fed, outlaw all negative possibilities and encase everyone in safety foam just to be safe????

Jean, you hit the the nail on the head.



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by tkwasny
Need to take away air from all humans. They convert O2 rich air into CO2 rich air. There are many slippery slopes that can be instituted with the onset argued as for the common good under common sense. Just keep the conversation time-shallow.


Yeah man I get the bit about humans wasting oxygen and converting it to carbon dioxide unnecessarily but yeah whatever! Whatever floats your boat man! Burning petrol (or gas for the US viewers) is fun! Burn baby burn! And I don't care how many people die or countries invaded to ensure we have enough of that stuff. Yee Haw. Does that make you happy? (Sarcasm!)



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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JPZ I know you are pretty principled / consistent in your beliefs, meaning that whether I agree with you or not I do repsect your opinion. I have a question.

Bearing in mind your wider point generally I wonder whether you think that nothing should be taken away from the public - ie that people should decide what is good for them and not the authorities in all cases, Obviously this is a general question, and I will not refer specifically to the drug issue, as this would violate t&c.



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:21 AM
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I really enjoyed your thread. S&F.


Please remember, folks, while many gang members have perfected striking a target during drive bys, please don't text and shoot. Thank you.
(This has been a public service announcement.)



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
Doesn't matter. The pure price of petrol will stymy much of this country in the coming months so the select few will be driving anyway.


You often seem to miss the point of threads. I think you just read the title before commenting.

Bravo OP!! You make an entirely valid point. Additionally, you could go as far as to say #1 and #2 could be used intentionally to kill, and occasionally are. Now, Im still all for registering and licensing (just like vehicles), because for every vehicle / gun released into the public, somebody needs to be responsible for it. And I do believe there are certain standards one should meet in order to be licensed, just like with a driver's license.



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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Then you may as well take away our legs as well!

In 1998. 15,900 people were killed in 1998 due to falls in the shower / bathtub. Most of these were seniors.

At least 30000 are hurt each year, and 6000 die from falling off ladders each year.

More than 1,000 people die every year from falling down the stairs, and older people are more at risk for this kind of accident.

Not that this has to do with legs but; Falling coconuts kill 150 people worldwide each year,



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by TomServo

Originally posted by Human_Alien
Doesn't matter. The pure price of petrol will stymy much of this country in the coming months so the select few will be driving anyway.


You often seem to miss the point of threads. I think you just read the title before commenting.

Bravo OP!! You make an entirely valid point. Additionally, you could go as far as to say #1 and #2 could be used intentionally to kill, and occasionally are. Now, Im still all for registering and licensing (just like vehicles), because for every vehicle / gun released into the public, somebody needs to be responsible for it. And I do believe there are certain standards one should meet in order to be licensed, just like with a driver's license.


Ron Paul!!!



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by pierregustavetoutant
HaHa!
And on that note, it is also time to take red meat, carbohydrates, any oil used for frying, and cigarettes away from the American Public!
Don't forget about kites. They pose a lightning death risk.


Okay this has all gone way too flippin' far. Nobody touches my cigarettes.



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:42 AM
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I hear ya'. Although I would be perfectly happy if they made cigarettes illegal and a certain other smokable substance legal. You wouldn't see me complaining in the least.


On topic, it is backasswards the way the goverernment picks and chooses what we can have and what we can't. I'm so sick of the nanny state they're creating.



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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You speak as if technological advancement represents our humanness. Well you're wrong. Our technology has passed our humanness and what makes us human has for most people been taken away. Through the desensitization by the movies people see, games played, etc. There's no real value given to life, no dignity.

By the way, we are not animals and never came from an animal. We are created by God and have unalienable rights. If you don't believe in a God, you must accept you're worth nothing more than a roach and subject to slavery.



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:50 AM
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Additionally, take away the ability to post until one can demonstrate reading/satirical/sarcasm comprehension.

Golf courses...any idea how much evil in the world is hatched/furthered on the links? This goes along with an earlier poster's idea to ban corporate entities...

JPZ, I have recently enjoyed many of your posts in the various threads I've read but not contributed to for their insight and obviously firm foundation.

Kudos



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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I could only dream of a United States where motor vehicles have been abandoned..
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posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 09:59 AM
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Let's take away all inanimate objects!!!!



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 10:00 AM
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I can imagine it.
I would be really happy if I could zip around with a jet pack strapped to me.
Then, we'd have to deal with all those nasty air collisions.....
Considering that some states like Florida allow people to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, what's the difference?



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Table 1103. Motor Vehicle Accidents—Number and Deaths: 1990 to 2009

[11.5 represents 11,500,000]

Item
Unit 1990 1995 2000 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
ACCIDENTS

Motor vehicle accidents 1 : Million . . .

.........11.5 10.7 13.4 10.9 10.7 10.4 10.6 10.2 10.8

DEATHS

Motor vehicle deaths within 1 yr. 2 : 1,000 . . . .

.........46.8 43.4 43.4 44.9 45.3 45.3 43.9 39.7 35.9


Motor Vehicle Accidents: Number and Deaths


Firearms were the third-leading cause of injury-related deaths nationwide in 2009, following poisoning and motor vehicle accidents.


Gun Violence Statistics

Come to think of it, time to take the poisons away from the American public!

Neither poison, or motor vehicles are Constitutionally protected by the federal government, yet the federal government turns its head to these most disturbing statistics. To hell with rights! To hell with freedom! To hell with the American public! Time to put that ever so annoying American public in its place!



i'm sorry, but i didn't see any news story, or heard about any laws that were passed that eliminated the 2nd amendment. i live in stockton, calif, guns are easy to buy, and ammo is plentiful.
reporting on gun violence, does not do away with the 2nd amendment



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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+- 10 millions in car accidents Vs +- 100 000 for guns?

Well I'd sure love to show that to gun control shills out there...



posted on Apr, 6 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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Poisoning is actually the leading cause of death. However, most deaths from so called "poisoning" happen because someone took PROPERLY prescribed medication, and it killed them.

Most automobile accidents can be prevented with common sense, slowing down, regular vehicle maintenanceand not driving while drunk, stoned, on medication (see above!), off medication, or texting.

Most gun deaths can be prevented by - oh, I don't know - having some GUN LAWS. Countries with tough gun laws have the lowest gun deaths. Strange correllation, eh?

Top three causes of death in USA are fairly preventable. However, it's unlikely that anyone will do anything about any of them.





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