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Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff...m always left stumped by Americans arguments for gun ownership, to me it just seems like idiots want guns to protect themselves from other idiots with guns. Do you seriously not see how all your justifications for gun ownership are self defeating
In every country criminals have access to guns easy enough yet no where else in the world do gun deaths come anywhere near the total that they do in the US.
Table 1: European Gun Ownership and Murder Rates
(rates given are per 100,000 people and in descending order)
Nation | Murder Rate | Rate of Gun Ownership
Russia | 20.54  | 4,000
Luxembourg | 9.01  | c. 0
Hungary | 2.22 |  | 2,000
Finland | 1.98  | 39,000
Sweden | 1.87  | 24,000
Poland | 1.79  | 1,500
France | 1.65  | 30,000
Denmark | 1.21  | 19,000
Greece | 1.12  | 11,000
Switzerland | 0.99  | 16,000
Germany | 0.93  | 30,000
Norway | 0.81  | 36,000
Austria | 0.80  | 17,000
Notes: This table covers all the Continental European nations for which the two data sets given are both available. In every case, we have given the homicide data for 2003 or the closest year thereto because that is the
year of the publication from which the gun ownership data are taken. Gun ownership data comes from GRADUATE INSTITUTE OF INTERNATIONAL STUDIES, SMALL ARMS SURVEY 64 tbl.2.2, 65 tbl.2.3 (2003).
The homicide rate data comes from an annually published report, CANADIAN CENTRE FOR JUSTICE STATISTICS, HOMICIDE IN CANADA, JURISTAT, for the years 2001–2004. Each year’s report gives homicide statistics for a dozen or so foreign nations in a section labeled “Homicide Rates for Selected Countries.” This section of the reports gives no explana‐8. GARY KLECK, TARGETING GUNS: FIREARMS AND THEIR CONTROL 20 (1997) (discussing patterns revealed by studies in the United States). 9. Our assertions as to the legality of handguns are based on COMM’N ON CRIME PREVENTION & CRIM. JUSTICE, U.N. ECON. & SOC. COUNCIL, UNITED NATIONS INTERNATIONAL STUDY ON FIREARMS REGULATION 26, tbl. 2‐1 (1997 draft).
... “data on firearms
ownership by constabulary area in England,” like data
from the United States, show “a negative correlation,” that is,
“where firearms are most dense violent crime rates are lowest,
and where guns are least dense violent crime rates are highest.”
Originally posted by Miraj
reply to post by rockintitz
If someone has a gun on me, that's probably not the moment I'm pulling a gun.
A finger pull is way faster than lifting your shirt up and fumbling a 9mm from the side of your waist.
Originally posted by someguy0083
reply to post by abecedarian
How dare you use facts! i should contact a moderator and report you