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posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 12:11 AM
The Hopi prophecy

World War III will be started by those peoples who first revealed the light (the divine wisdom or intelligence) in the other old countries (India, China, Islamic Nations, Africa.) The war will be "a spiritual conflict with material matters. Material matters will be destroyed by spiritual beings who will remain to create one world and one nation under one power, that of the Creator."

It is said that after many years the elder brother might change the color of his skin, but his hair will remain black. He will have the ability to write, and he will be the only person able to read the Tiponi. When he returns to find his younger brother, the Tiponi will be placed side by side to show all the world that they are true brothers. Then great judgment will take place, for the elder will help the younger brother to obtain real justice for all Indian brothers who have been cruelly mistreated by the white man since he came to Turtle Island.

When "the mysterious Mayan civilization" exhibition was held in Beijing's China Century Altar, many Chinese spectators felt a kind of closeness between the Mayan and Chinese cultures, many felt many years ago the two cultures must have been "brothers".

There is a little known story from late Qing dynasty, the first Chinese ambassador to Mexico had an extraordinary experience in Mexico, he was at one time contacted by a group of native Mexicans who were seeking help from the Chinese government against white oppression and they told the ambassador that they consider the Chinese to be their "brethrens". The Chinese ambassador was baffled but he recorded the incident in his memo.

I have come to the conclusion that China (as a nation with large population and an ancient history) is "the elder brother" mentioned in the Hopi prophecy.

Since David wilcock's "China's October surprise", many from the western "alternative community" are having difficulty to understand why a supposedly "bad" China would be suddenly at odds with the negative forces. (Satan worshipers)

Chinese leaders, determined to persuade America that they mean no harm, have recruited Sun Tzu to their cause. In 2006 President Hu Jintao gave President George Bush silk copies of the “Art of War” in English and Chinese ... In July this year, Beijing’s Renmin University presented an “Art of War” to Admiral Michael Mullen, the chairman of America’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, during a visit to the capital.

To give the likes of Bush a copy of the art of war is like a declaring war. If one follows the reports by Benjamin fulford and David Wilcock one will know that there is a financial war going on since at least 2001 to defeat the Anglo-american elites. Peter Levenda has also suspected that the 2008 crisis was somehow planned by China although he can not quite figure it out how.

But there are certain tentative evidence to suggest that somehow the Chinese were involved.

Readers of my book Babylon’s Banksters will recall that in the preface of that book, I outlined the mathematical formula that allowed banks and securites brokerages to bundle together derivatives called credit default swaps, a formula that was devised by Chinese mathematician Dr. David Li, who at the time he devised it, was indeed employed by the Imperial Bank of Commerce in Canada. Coincidentally, at the time, the wealthy Li clan of Hong Kong were major shareholders in this bank. Dr. Li subsequently departed the bank prior to the meltdown, and returned to China, where he assumed a post in an agency responsible for risk assessment and management. So, we now have another Chinese connection...

2012 is the year when the Mayan gods will return, there will be battle between "good" and "evil" as mentioned by Mayan and Hopi prophecies. To understand why China is doing what it is doing as reported by both Benjamin Fulford and David Wilcock's "China's October Surprise", one needs to examine the lost connection between ancient China and the Americas to have a better view of the panorama.

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posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 12:19 AM
Origin of South American deity Viracocha

01- South American Deity Viracocha as depicted on Gate of the Sun

02- One of earliest form of Viracocha, distinguished as a fanged deity with twin serpents

03- A fanged deity found in a Zhou dynasty tomb identified as a relic belong to an earlier Neolithic culture called Shijiahe culture

04- A fanged deity from Shijiahe culture

05- a human-like deity mounted on a beast, also found in the Shijiahe culture

06- The main deity of Liangzhu culture, identified as the precursor to later Taotie motif found on typical Shang-Zhou period bronze ritual vessels

07- Like human-like Shijiahe deity, the Liangzhu deity also is mounted on a beast which later become the Taotie motif

08- Taotie motif on Shang bronze ritual vessel, where the human-like figure of Liangzhu phase is removed, leaving only the beast, Taotie always appear on ritual vessels, functioned as medium for communication with Heaven. Yet, according to certain interpretation, Taotie is actually changed form of Chi You, which was used to warn people about greed, it is relevant to mention that it seems human sacrifice culture suddenly arose during Shang period, and last Shang king, according to Chinese folklore was tyrannical ruler whose Queen was possessed by evil spirit, Shang dynasty was overthrown by the Zhou (around 11th century BC), whose founding kings were able to defeat the Shang because they got the help from “immortals” who possess supernatural powers. And a group of Shang elites (as many as 500,000) vanished in Chinese history because they “went to the sea”; this led some scholars to speculate that these Shang elites ended up in Mexico. The Zhou on the other hand introduced what would later be called Confucianism to replace the Shang cultural norm which was much focused on “supernaturals”.

09- The human-like LiangZhu deity are found on many Liangzhu jade relics

10- LiangZhu jade piece depicting only the fanged beast which is mounted by the human-like deity

11- A ‘spring-autumn – warring states period bronze piece with a deity with the twin serpents

12- A deity with twin serpents, origin unknown (China)

13- A Deity with twin serpents again, origin unknown (China)

14- A human-like deity mounted on a beast, which resembles the ones from both Liangzhu and Shijiahe cultures of Southern China can also be found in the Northern Neolithic Hongshan culture

15- Human-like deity type 1 from Hongshan culture

16- Human-like deity type 2 from Hongshan culture

17- Along type 1 and type 2 deity, there is also the non-human-like Hongshan ‘bull deity’, which like human-like types, is also mounted on a beast (my take is this bull headed Hongshan deity is the original form of Chi You)

18- Neolithic cultures in China, I-Hongshan culture, V-Liangzhu culture, and Shijiahe culture would be around the area between V and IV

19- Hmong people still consider Chi You to be their ancestor

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posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 12:25 AM
Certain link exists between South American deity Viracocha and the predominant ancient Chinese deities.

The conclusion thus far is

- Based on the evolution of its appearance, which seems to correlate with the academically given ages of these cultures, it seems Viracocha is ‘derived’ from the fanged deity of Shijiahe culture which was derived from the ‘beast’ that the human-like deity is mounted on, it seems the original fanged form of Viracocha was further ‘evolved form’ of fanged deity of Shijiahe.

The separation of the human-like deity with his beast had already happened during the earlier Liangzhu period, as the beast was already independently depicted.

It seems the human-like Liangzhu deity was also little ‘evolved’ from yet earlier forms since his eyes and mouth are rather ‘exaggerated’.

The Hongshan human-like deities on the other hand, given both they have obvious cultural connections to Liangzhu one, and they are actually more ‘human-like’, it seems they are, not only the ‘precursor’ to Liangzhu deity, but they appear to be the actual portrait of these ‘gods’, therefore they are the ‘original form’ of South American deity known as Viracocha.

-South American deity Viracocha, and the deities of Shijiahe, Liangzhu and Hongshan cultures, and later Taotie motif of Shang period are essentially the same ‘god’ or group of ‘gods’.

If such connection is established, it certainly could explain some ‘intriguing’ details like this,

In the movie “National Treasure: Book of Secrets”, Emily Appleton found some characters in the city of gold, she says “This is gonna unlock the Olmec language. It’s gonna give us incredible insight into Pre-Columbian history!”

The first three characters are Olmec, but the rest are Chinese

- It is worth to note, the Hongshan culture was the culture where Daoism and the coiled/circular dragons originated, and these cultural traits are shared with the Mayans

Mayan Tzolkin

Chinese I Ching

Hongshan serpentine figure

Mayan serpentine figure

Coiled dragon, typical of Hongshan culture

The earliest known representation of a feathered serpent in Mesoamerica has also a coiled serpent

According to South American tradition, after civilizing the continent Viracocha left South America by flying across the pacific. The above presented relics demonstrated that the origin of Viracocha can be traced back to ancient China which is indeed across the pacific.

posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 12:28 AM
The Hopi Prophecy you refer to has been proven to be a hoax. Here is the information spelled out for you...

The Hopi Prophecies do not tie in with 2012


Just as there are various versions of the Hopi creation mythology, there are various versions of the prophecy, reported by different authors at different times. Note; According to statements made by the Hopi themselves, none of the currently publicized "Hopi Prophecies" actually originate with the Hopi. The closest to the genuine beliefs of the Hopi themselves would be the statements made by Thomas Banacyca to the United Nations. In this version, the Hopi are warning against continued armament by the great nations, stating that it will lead to another world war.

The Hopi do not discuss their beliefs with outsiders.


posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 12:29 AM

I'm glad the Ancient Aliens season four actually mentions the Hongshan culture in China (in Aliens and Mega-disasters), and that the worldwide phenomenon of "flying serpents/dragons" are associated with "ETs". However, i'm also disappointed that one episode associates dragons with reptilians.

The origin of Chinese serpents and serpentine deities like the creator goddess Nuwa and her companion Fuxi can be traced back to ancient Shamanism

with visions induced by hallucinogens as a way to communicate with "the spirit world".
Hongshan serpentine figure

Mayan serpentine figure

Since ancient South American culture has a connection with ancient Chinese cultures, its not a far fetched claim that the ancient Chinese serpentine gods, like their American counterparts, were also the product of communication with "the spirit world".
Ayahuasca spirit of the Amazon natives

The serpents/dragons are symbols of these ancient "spiritual teachers" because it symbolizes the spiral galaxy which essentially is torsion, and the human DNA is also touched by it, that these "ETs" share a genetic relationship with the people of earth.

additional reading on origin of Chinese dragons:
Origin of dragons, an archaeological perspective

Unfortunately, the ancient alien series focused too much on "materialistic" aspect of the legecy of cosmic serpents, but less so with the "spiritual" aspect of it , especially through the eyes of the ancient people.

For instance, the so called "cranial surgery" in ancient South America was really a shamanistic practice, aimed at communicating with "the spirtual world" by physically opening up the lid that the ancient people believe blocks the soul from travelling out of human body.

As one can see the comparison, the left one is a hat wore by Daoist monks, the right one is the headgear wore by its ancient counterpart from Hongshan culture. The hollow design of the Daoist hat is to remind man of the process of reincarnation (with some interpret the hollow design represents a woman's part which gives birth to a new life), clearly the process of 'reincarnation' was already known to the ancient men from Hongshan culture.

But before one is reincarnated into another physical personage, one has to be 'trialed' by the 'Heaven'. The Chinese refer the top of human head/cranium as 'Tian Ling Gai', 'Tian' literally means 'Heaven'; 'Ling' means 'spirit'/'soul'; and 'Gai' means 'lid'/'cover'. The reincarnation process involves both the soul of a person and the 'Heaven'.

Have a look at this ancient relic from Sanxingdui culture

The cloud-like "nose" is actually representation of the human soul leaving the body, this specific type of Sanxingdui masks are closely associated with another type of mask which has a hole on the forehead

The hole was deliberately hacked after the casting of the mask. With their level of metal casting, if they wanted to have a hole on the mask's forehead they could have casted it in the mould, instead they choose to open a hole on a perfect casted mask. This is ritual practice that is essentially the same as "cranial surgery" in ancient South America. An analogy can be seen in the making of the famous terracotta warriors of the first emperor of China, the clay soldiers were a substitute for real soldiers, as it was a practice during the previous Shang dynasty to bury real soldiers.

Continue with more ideas on Chinese, ET and 2012 connection
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posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 12:37 AM

Originally posted by Destinyone
The Hopi Prophecy you refer to has been proven to be a hoax. Here is the information spelled out for you...


The White Dragon suggestion is for a representative to be selected by each of the following groups: Africa, China, East Asia (excluding China), India, North and South America, Europe including Russia, the Islamic world and first nations.

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I see someone is trying to give the first nations a much greater voice, and i see China plays a key role in the current financial transition to replace the system created by the Anglo-american elites.

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posted on Apr, 5 2012 @ 07:26 AM
So basically this is based on a fake Hopi prophecy and a fantasy connection between the Mayans and China.

If the basis is false, then any ideas derived from that are almost certainly false.
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