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Al-Qaeda's Online Forums Go Dark For Extended Period

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posted on Apr, 7 2012 @ 05:17 AM
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hmm yes the duration of downtime is a puzzler.

perhaps every time they were put back online they were immediately removed again?

but everyone including jester concedes these sites are a good source of intel for the feds so i would say the reason they are back online is probably because jester or whoever did this wants them to be.
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posted on Apr, 7 2012 @ 05:34 AM
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I agree with that, the US wants these sites up... someone else (which I showed the link to) got one of these two sites removed last year, but they went right back online.

I disagree with keeping them up, because it only allows them to spread this sickness. To me, we can stop this fundamentalist idealism from spreading, but the US in their actions only helps them in their cause, and is very preventative of anyone trying to stop this spread.

That is what I see, the US government and the Wahhabi fundamentalists do enjoy one another's existence, they both are helpers of one another. Without the US, the Wahhabi would not be as powerful, and without the Wahhabi, the US would not be as powerful.

I understand you will think that the existence of the Wahhabi would never affect the power the US has over the people, but if you give some rational thought to the notion, they have assisted the US government to remove the constitutional rights of the American people, through the policy of ruling through fear. Their existence does give more power to US, not only in your countries, but in ours as well.

Those whom you consider moderate followers of Islam can stop the spread, but only if the US stays out of it. Which they will not.


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posted on Apr, 7 2012 @ 05:31 PM
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The actual value of shutting down websites such as this is minimal from a intelligence stand point, the value lies more in creating headlines and causing perhaps some miner disturbance to the Al’Qa-ida propaganda machine.

These websites have a tendency to promote and advocate acts or terrorism rather than act as a means to facilitate a terrorist attack or plan one. Typically such websites contain various videos of martyrdom operations and details of the Shahid’s, along with contact details, hate speech against the west utilising a twisted interpretation of the Qur’an. In addition to this some also have forums where cyber-radicalising takes place by drawing in mostly young and impressionable individuals to subscribe to a violent interpretation of Islam the so called “Cyber-Jihad” is very real.

That being said however there are so many of these websites it’s impossible to shut them all down, take out one and another will spring up in a few hours. What is arguably better from a intelligence stand point is to monitor these website’s to target individuals who appear to be becoming radicalised through the internet or are using the internet as a tool for terrorism. To shut down the website we may lose track of these individuals in cyberspace, it’s safer we know where they are and who they are talking to rather than not knowing. People who are radicalised in cyberspace also make up a relatively small proportion of radical individuals on a global scale most are disenfranchised individuals who are radicalised via their culture or in some way. For example the Taliban fighters have not been radicalised by the internet, nor really were any terrorists before 2000.

That being said however I would argue that the value of shutting down these websites is minimal, not only can it be counterproductive from a intelligence stand point but also take up valuable resources to target a relatively small number of individuals who may be becoming radicalised through the internet. What would be a much more effective use of resources would be to target the finite number of IT systems personal who are sympathetic or working with violent Islamic extremists to stop them recreating these websites.

In addition to this it is also worth pointing out that although websites like this may provide limited information on organising a terrorist attack and facilitate some level of radicalisation they do not provide any further logistical support for a terrorist plot. Terrorists do not use these forums to communicate with each other by the internet as it would openly advertise their intentions. Most of the time they will use systems such as Skype to communicate or use dead box email accounts and communicate via Gaming servers, some have even been known to use pornographic websites to hide information in. It is breaking these methods of communication for terrorists that would present a truly significant breakthrough in disturbing their operations.

It may also be worth mentioning that just because it is being reported that this is a “Al’Qa-ida” website does not make it so, there are many organisations that use the Al’Qa-ida brand name without actually having any real affiliation with the group. It is highly probable that there are many on the internet who claims to be affiliated with Al’Qa-ida in a official capacity however the reality is that they have no connection what so ever. And besides, it always makes the government look good when they can connect anything like this to Al’Qa-ida.



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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A real American hacker hero named Raptor takes responsibillity, it's on FoxNews now.

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Grandpa, patriot who goes by 'The Raptor,' claims credit for taking down Al Qaeda websites



posted on Apr, 10 2012 @ 01:11 PM
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img.ibtimes.com... does it have anything to do with iran taking down their world wide web and only allowing iranian based internet services or are they unrelated matters? im kinda trying to figure out if its just iran that has done this or if other middle eastern countires are following suit



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