Originally posted by IgnorantSpecies
What is the point of Christianity if I can do anything I want, break any of gods rules, not even follow the bible and all I have to do in return is
apologize for my sins.
Essentially I could kill every single person on the planet and get into heaven by just saying sorry?
I mean doesnt that defeat the purpose.
It is clear to see this is a problem by the fact that all followers of the bible don't actually follow it like the bible asks, break its rules on a
daily basis and yet claim they are true followers?
Why is it that you don't have to follow the bible to follow the bible?
edit on 4-4-2012 by IgnorantSpecies because: (no reason given)
Your premise is incorrect. God is not asking you to apologize. What does He need form you? This question is answered by something called bread of
Ask yourself a few questions: What do you do to produce the world around you? Nothing. What do you do to make your hair grow; your stomach digest;
the sun shine; the earth turn, or your blood circulate? Nothing. What do we do as humans? We move and we think. That's it. Everything else has
been produced for us. If you disconnect your thought and your movement, nothing can be accomplished. If you take away your body from your thoughts,
you cannot move. In other words, we are not the owner of any of it. We participate because it has been provided.
When you realize that your soul is not your possession, but has been given to you (something from nothing), then you start to see what bread of shame
represents. God has given you everything. What have you done to return the bread? This is the idea behind humility. We owe God all we think we
have in this world. All of it is a gift and we owe it all to God for giving us this gift of life. We are all equal in this respect. We all move
and we all think. The quality of this movement and thought determines our path in life and the end result of a life lived.
You are asking the questions with an incorrect premise. Essentially, you are asking, "What do I own God?" Isn't it obvious?
Your second premise is that you can just apologize for being full of pride against Him; for not returning something of equal value back to God. A
person with any sense of the world around him needs to understand that God gave the entire experience here for our benefit. The point is not about
you. It's about what God has done for you.
Your sin in life affects others, not just you. If you smoke, you get cancer. This is because you took something that created a debt. When you take
a reward, you are a thief. God created the universe to answer this stealing with a debt to be paid. We cannot repay this to God. Again, we have
bread of shame. We are thieves.
What is the answer? The Bible tells us that our works cannot pay God back for our sin. Again, God comes to our aid and gives to us. He comes here
to Earth as our kinsman (Jesus) and dies (suffers) on a cross for us. Again, bread of shame. He did this to free us from our fallen state. This is
God giving to us. There is a secret in all of this that is shown by example.
If we follow God's example, we see Him continually giving. Giving must suffer work for reward. Taking can only grab the reward first, causing a
debt. God does not take. Instead, our choices take from us by causing a debt. His example was in Jesus. Jesus told us to turn the other cheek,
bless those who curse us, feed the hungry, sell all we have and feed the poor. You are correct in one thing. None of us can live up to that
standard. So again, what's the answer if we are unable to pay our debt?
Two negatives multiplied make a positive.
Consider this example: In mathematics, if you owe three people $10, then you are negative $30 (3 X -10 = $-30). If the lenders then say, "We forgive
you for this debt because we love you," then you are free from that debt by another negative. You have just had three subtractions of -10, making you
three positives of $10 (-3 X -$10). Your debt is -30 + 30 = Zero. Jesus died a horrible death to pay our debt, walking us back to a positive value.
Giving creates reward. Taking creates debt. Can you answer your questions now? I can answer them for you. Your choices matter.
Chapter 1 - Choices
We are what we think.
All that we are arises with our thoughts.
With our thoughts we make the world.
Speak or act with an impure mind
And trouble will follow you
As the wheel follows the ox that draws the cart.
You are the OX. The cart is your burden in life. The wheel turns until you see God and understand truth.
Jesus said, "You must be born again." The wheel will turn until you see God and understand why truth matters. It's not about you. It's about
others. You are one of the others and so is God. Love can only give. God is love. Love keeps no record of wrongs. 1 Corinthians 13. Does this
mean you walk away if truth is not embraced? No. God demands our faith backed by works. If we do not demonstrated our faith in Him by giving to
others by His example, we are not His. In this case, Love can only protect His own against the thieves.
God separates the light from the darkness. We make the choice where we stand.
edit on 4-4-2012 by EnochWasRight because: (no reason given)