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I believe that this man is speaking in "angelic tongues."
No, because the separation of the spirit and soul is the "2nd death". And animals are given the "breath of life", but do not have a spirit.
A world renouned Christian apologist. I think the haze is clearing, you don't like any Christian apologist and reject them outright before hearing anything they have to say.
Why do you entertain what I have to say then as a Christian apologist? Just to disagree since I think it's apparent it's not to learn anything from me as an weak amateur one myself.
You don't like the idea of the God of the Bible, and won't listen to anyone tell you that you have Him all wrong.
If someone only told me the times your dad punished you as a child and gave me erroneous reasons for why He did so and never told me of all the good he did as well I'd think he was a royal douche too.
You're basing your decision on cherry-picked info and straw man arguments for Him. That makes me sad, you don't know my Father in heaven, not at all. And you refuse to let people who are very astute tell you about Him better than anyone here could ever hope to.
Pantheism, doctrine of demons. But why do you love the Gnostic texts then? They rejected everything material as evil. And everything metaphysical as good.
You're right, if He was small enough for our 3 lb brains to fully understand He wouldn't nearly be big enough for our need. But on the other hand, don't you think if He has the technology to create us from dirt that He also has the technology to reveal Himself in a message system to us??
Seems like a simple task to me in comparison to His other works of creation.
Absurd. Man loves pleasure so why would he invent a thing that holds a club over our heads unless we deny things we find initially fun to do? That's silly IMO.
How can one form an opinion of something from a bias source...
I don't agree with the God of the bible... because he/they do not fall in line with what Jesus said about the true God of the bible...
The bible tells of attrocities "God" has commited and condoned through out history...
I would say to clairify what you believe... so i have an understanding of your point of view... I don't post simply to disagree... only to question.
I don't need anyone to tell me what the bible says... its quite easy to read for myself....
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Akragon
How can one form an opinion of something from a bias source...
Everyone has bias, to assume there is middle ground is in itself a bias. Thus self-refuting.
I don't agree with the God of the bible... because he/they do not fall in line with what Jesus said about the true God of the bible...
Jesus is the God of the Bible made flesh. In Him dwelleth the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
The bible tells of attrocities "God" has commited and condoned through out history...
That sir is from a biased source, re-compute what you said above with that in mind.
edit on 7-4-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
That sir is from a biased source, re-compute what you said above with that in mind.
If one questions and never admits relevant points made they are just a skeptic.
Which is why... as i've said... i have no interest in other's opinions of scripture... i prefer to go to the scripture directly and form my own opinion...
And Jesus is not God...lol
Not something we'll ever agree on
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Akragon
Which is why... as i've said... i have no interest in other's opinions of scripture... i prefer to go to the scripture directly and form my own opinion...
And Jesus is not God...lol
Not something we'll ever agree on
And we never will if you read the Gnostic books and Westcott and Hort Bibles, they were removed from them.
Read my edited post above please, I'm going to bed now.
God Bless
And i didn't know the gnostics had an "official bible"... and i've read all their scripture many times.... and various translations as well.
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by NOTurTypical
So yet again you see why i go to the sorce rather then read others opinions on such matters....
I thought you were going to bed
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by NOTurTypical
So yet again you see why i go to the sorce rather then read others opinions on such matters....
I thought you were going to bed
I'm trying... *sigh* It's 3 am and I need to get up at 6:30. I have to help at church tomorrow because I offered to help, you're right I need to try and get some sleep. I was going to try and stay up and sleep after helping out, but they deserve to have me not dead tired tomorrow.
And my point is, which source?
Going now, you're right, sometimes It's hard for me to stop ya know?
If one looks in the right places it is interesting to note that Paul has a very Gnostic slant to his writing... it makes me wonder if Paul hung around Gnostics...
See you are a Nut
I don't function on 3 hours of sleep...
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Again... others opinions of these matters?
Im not interested in what this guy has to say about the bible... or the gnostics
Sorry but i just can't sit and listen to someone preach... especially for an hour... about paul
edit on 7-4-2012 by Akragon because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by windword
I believe that this man is speaking in "angelic tongues."
He's an amazing talent no doubt about that. But it's still English. I'm not denying his God-given talent though, thank you very much for linking them and letting me learn of him, never heard him perform before.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Again... others opinions of these matters?
Im not interested in what this guy has to say about the bible... or the gnostics
Sorry but i just can't sit and listen to someone preach... especially for an hour... about paul
edit on 7-4-2012 by Akragon because: (no reason given)
I'm not nieve enough to believe you're the only one reading my replies. I can't really remember in all my years of doing apologetics where a person who I was arguing with saying "wow dude, you're right, please tell me about Jesus." But I have scores of PM's from folks saying that, here and the other places I preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. You and I are actually putting on the "show" for the hearts and minds of the audience who are watching this exchange.
You most likely will never watch it or anything else I ask you to, but many others will watch it. Doesn't mean I still do not love you bro, but I love Him and His lost elect so much more. Btw, its 630! I made it up! Lol
Originally posted by starheart
reply to post by LightSpeedDriver
The Illuminati re-wrote misinterpretations of the Bible when it took over the Vatican.