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Arizona is by no stretch of the imagination a police state HW...
I would not suggest 'verbally' attack an officer of the court...
A facist uptopia... sorry, that is hilariously insane...
The two men were stopped for a reason, which you have never presented...
it was determined there was 'probable cause' to arrest them...
if you were not there then you know little more than I do and I suggest your responding illogically and radically...
possibility they were acting irrationally as you suggest and yelling at the officers???
We don't know... and obviously they were released at some point... you still didn't state what the charges were... so this is a lame argument with no substance on your part.
Please return with facts, not a prejudiced opinion.
“The easiest way to put this to rest is to have the records unsealed,” Morris County Sheriff Ed Rochford told the Huffington Post in an email following the April 4 event in Morristown. “Mr. Corsi made a very convincing argument that President Obama may not be a natural born citizen of the United States.”
New Jersey Assemblyman Anthony Bucco, R-Boonton, said Corsi’s speech leaves doubts about Obama’s citizenship status. He told the website it is not his place to determine whether Obama is a citizen, and he believes “a higher authority” must resolve the issue.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by OldCurmudgeon
reply to post by Annee
Frankly Annee... I long ago developed a total dislike and lost all faith in both parties, especially the far left and the far right...
OK - - hand shake.
I am actually a 40+ year Goldwater Republican (minus the Christian part). But times have changed. There is no Rep/Dem anymore. I don't know what the Hell is going on.
Jerry Brown (I'm sure you know who he is) - - recently said - - - when he first entered politics - - you called up "the other guy" - - met for dinner and drinks - - discussed and hashed out a compromise. He says Today - - - there is nothing like that. He says - - no one cares. Its "My way or the highway".
Sad state of affairs this government.
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
Once again Obama is not going after Arpaio. This is the culmination of an investigation initiated under the Bush administration.
>>First of all, I’m the elected, constitutional, legitimate sheriffI report to 4 million people in this county, and I’m not going to be controlled by the federal government because they don’t like the way I enforce the illegal-immigration laws. And it’s really interesting they’re cracking down right now. I presume we’re in an election year. You know this started three and a half years ago, 100 days after Obama took office, they went after me. I’m their poster boyBut it started in 2008 under President Bush – the investigationIt did NOT. It started 100 days under ObamaThere is a former mayor that made a complaint to the Justice Department, but it was the Obama administration that started the investigation. So they can give all the hype they want for political reasons. But I tried to negotiate. I spent 50 years in law enforcement, many years as a top law-enforcement official with the Department of Justice, so I would like to get this over with
Originally posted by Night Star
All states should take away jobs and freebies for illegals. They will self deport and cost us nothing.
Originally posted by DrMattMaddix
Would love nothing more than to see birthers put in their place.
Obama: Oh, hai, I found some documentation that you might haz interest.
Birthers: OMG, WTF, this stuff is REAL OMG...
Birthers: We haz leet xpertz looking at dox and they can't find flaws nor fraud.
Birthers: We haz chill up leg too!
Hmmm... All done. I guess I'm just day dreaming.
edit on 4·6·12 by DrMattMaddix because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by HauntWok
reply to post by OldCurmudgeon
So, basically your saying you don't trust what anyone says ever. You don't buy what the MSM is saying, you don't buy what the DOJ is saying, then why do you think that there is any reason to believe that there is a problem with immigration in this country?
Have you personally asked and gotten an honest answer out of every single person in the United States as to their immigration status? Are you telling me that without first hand knowledge of an event, that event never occurred? Seriously that has to be the most asinine thing in the history of ever!
Oh wait, there is no history cause you personally haven't been there to witness it, and unless someone who actually was there at the time shows up at your house, telling you in graphic detail everything that went down, it didn't happen.
There's being skeptical my friend, and then there's being willfully ignorant.
LOL.. Hauntwok... you're attempt at logic is still incorrect and you must be a politican as you cherry pick your tidbits.
I say I don't swallow it hook line and sinker what is in print, left, or right... you know as well as I there the majority of MSM is aligned either left or right...
LOL... now I should not even respond to such a ridiculous question, but no, I have not spoken to everyone in the US and I have no intention too..
You obviously don't pay attention and do yourself the courtesy of reading posts by others.
I never said I have first hand knowledge of the incident, paraphrasing I said I don't and I'm assuming you don't either.
So again, you're making assumptions based on things you have heard and read and although from primary sources at this time, fact many times changes and is adjusted as evidence and legal methods are applied.
Yes, I agree from reading current information furnished that it is purported that the event in fact happen. But no logical person at this point would slam this as hard and fact until it is proven. That seems to be the part you continully ignore, proof. There is none at this point, only accusation and incomplete information (at least that furnished to us) regardng the purported event.
As I've said here many times before, this purported event is an issue which at this point, appreas to deserve judicial review. However, to date it is still only an accusation and a charge, i.e. it has never been adjuged in a court of law...
The court of public opinion which you and I debate in is, if not fun then a total waste of time as we have not the facts, we have no input and we will not be asked to judge.
LOL... you really are obtuse... no one needs to come to my house... ATS is built on debate and facts of the day... do you have a police report, do you know the gentleman who was arrested and have you personally spoken to him regarding this, do you know any or all of the officers at the event, do you have a copy of the police report. I didn't think so, so everything you espouse is opinion to which you are more than welcome.
As should be, everyone may speak their opinion, but only fact and truth come when the issue is heard in court.
As I said before many times, I feel confident the MCSO office would be more than happy to appear in court and resolve this issue. In fact as I have posted many times before, the Sheriff is on record day before yesterday of making just that statement.
I think at this point in time you and I should agree to disagree and await the 'facts', as there are no proven facts at the moment.
Originally posted by The Sword
I really can't wait until that generation bites the dust for good, taking its' ignorance to the grave.
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by Night Star
Yay, way to show your ignorance on the issue!
I have a MUCH, MUCH better idea!
Let's punish the CORPORATIONS that demand the labor that these people provide!
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by LastProphet527
Loll, But UMM, what does the black panthers IN 08 have to do with the corrupt sheriff and our great commander and chief IN 2012, just...not really understanding for some reason..like,really confused.
Allow me to fill you in. The case against the New Black Panthers for voter intimidation (clearly depicted in the video I posted in the OP) was rejected by Holder (the AG and head of Obama’s ‘justice’ department).
And if you want to talk about voters intimidation...OMG, don’t let me start pulling up all the voter intimidation that was going on all over the country in 08....and it wasn’t the black panthers MY GOSH…REALLY!
Please share (with links) because I have no idea what you mean.
i like this thread,it just came out today,i think you need to read it.
**ALL MEMBERS** The recent surge in Hatred, Racism, and Sheer Stupidity STOPS NOW
I’ve read it…thanks!
Are you saying this is a racist thread? Do you think because Obama and Holder are black and I happen to disagree with them I am somehow being racist?
Please enlighten me!!