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posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:01 PM
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Ummmm no. Guns do not kill people, people do. Are you going to try and ban sticks next? Baseball would be illegal ;(




posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:01 PM
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Let me see...there was this guy Stalin, he took power in Russia, the first thing he did was to confiscate all of the guns from the people. Then he calmly murdered 7 million of his citizens! I know this is an old saying, but it still rings true. You can have my guns when you pry them from my cold dead hands.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by lacrimaererum
2nd april 2012
7 shot Dead , 3 injured in Oakland
www.bbc.co.uk...

2nd april 2012
4 shot injured restuarant
www.hattiesburgamerican.com...|mostview

1st April 2012
2 Shot Dead, 12 shot injured miami
edition.cnn.com...

8th March 2012
2 shoot dead, 7 shot injured pittsburgh
www.cbsnews.com...

27th February 2012
3 shot dead , 2 shot wounded
www.foxnews.com...

22nd February 2012
5 shot dead, atlanta
edition.cnn.com...

29th January 2012
5 shot dead Birmingham, Ala
www.reuters.com...

This is only a few of the mass shootings over the last couple of months. Its not including the single shooting incidents or the huge amount of suicides carried out with guns. Its only the start of April and the bodies are piling up from gun crimes in the US. The US society is sick. It needs help. The gun needs to be taken off the american citizen. These statistics are only going to get worse. THe US like a lot of soceities are under serious pressure. Its people are angry, anxious, scared, struggling and unfortunately trigger happy. How many people in the US are at breaking point and are armed?

The only excuse that is wheeled out time and again is, 'its part of our constitution' or protect ourselves from the government. What a joke. The US society are completely at each others throats. The governments have nothing to worry about.

Well did you ever think it might be time to change the constitution. Its 2012. Maybe its time for a new one?

The population of America needs to be disarmed. You don't hear too much from the government because they seem to be content for the citizens to be killing each other.

The problem is , its like trying to get an alcoholic to stop drinking or a junkie off drugs. They are so addicted to their drink or drugs or weapon they are blind to the truth.

When a population is allowed to arm themselves with small weapons of death , and when there is so many guns in the population, doesn't the population become a weapon of mass destruction.

How do you convince a nation to grow up and realise its time to put down the guns?

Very good article i found here while looking around on this;
www.guardian.co.uk...


From my cold dead hand muthaF&^%er. Cars and fatty foods kill more people. I have my right to life, love, freedom and have the god given right to defend myself from anyone foreign or domestic. Take your socialist agenda to somewhere like europe



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:07 PM
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There is a price for freedom, and it can be heavy. Guns do kill people and that is a fact that can't be sugar coated. But it is the price we pay as free people. We have the right and ability to protect ourselves our families, and our home. I would rather die at 30, a free man, then 90 and a slave.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:08 PM
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People that desire the banning of guns suffer from tunnel vision - simply a scared reactionary response - fear based.

What they fail to see is that the introduction of guns to our society is impossible to reverse - it's too late to take the guns away - there's simply no way it can be done.

Why? Because there's millions of them, more can always be made and laws have never stopped criminals - that's why criminal organizations thrive under prohibition - the tech is here to stay and it's not going anywhere..

If you take guns here's what will happen:
A very bad person or group of people will become very rich and powerful importing and manufacturing illegal firearms.
Good citizens will not have guns to defend themselves or others (guns don't always have to be fired to deter a crime)
You will create a dynamic that would be a gift for criminals who previously didn't have the balls to invade a home or take a hostage or commit a robbery only because they were worried that someone around them just might fight back - with lead.

The best thing you will ever be able to do is make sure regular law abiding citizens have as much access as possible to legally purchase their own weapons and provide them with the means to train themselves to use them responsibly.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:15 PM
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posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:17 PM
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have to disagree with the statement that guns kill people...mine have been loaded for years now and havnt killed anybody yet...it takes a person to kill someone a gun cant do that by itself



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:20 PM
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O ya, sure, the government has already violated so many of our Constitutional rights, so why not another one? Do you know WHY the document wants citizens to have the right to bear arms? So that when the time comes we have a method to overthrow the tyrannical government. Ya can't have a revolution with no guns.

There have been many arguments for keeping guns legal, besides the Constitution itself. Criminals will still get guns, and robberies would likely increase since criminals know that law-abiding citizens are limited on ways to protect themselves. 911 is great and all, but it doesn't do one much good when there is someone inside the house, and you have no way to get out. A knife may just coerce the robber into shooting the homeowner, if the bad guy with the gun is confronted.

I would much rather be able to come out of my bedroom and double tap the intruder at the exact moment I see him, rather than take ANY chances, where God knows what could happen. That is the second most important reason...If not for defense against the government, for personal defense. In my honest opinion those are the ONLY TWO REASONS NEEDED for not outlawing firearms, but there are more.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:23 PM
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

So all the Americans on the ATS boards that own firearms, and constantly state that the 2nd Amendment protects your right to bear Arms, tell me this - how man of you are actually part of a well regulated Militia??? I'll bet less than 1%.................



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:29 PM
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First of all, I know I recently stated this in response to another post is you have more guns outside the police and military, owned legally, or not (most are legal by the way) then we have people in my country. A conservative figure of the US population is about 316 to 320,000,000 people. (300++million). The reasons are very complex as to why Americans have such a fixation on weapons but aside from needing to hunt and deal with the odd pissed off grisly bear it was appreciated well by the founders that one thing that was done in nations in particular in Europe was to prohibit persons from owning firearms.* (Please forgive the preamble but to understand Americans and our passion for guns, some back ground).

*That made revolt from tyrannical governments a tad more problematic. I guess the subjects could throw rocks. And actually until the late 1800's the bow and arrow in trained hands was far more "rapid fire" then weapons up until then, the exception the Colt .45 six shooter revolver. Don't believe me? Ask George Armstrong Custer if one can pull off a seance.

Now needless to say that the founders were very bright, indeed amazingly enlightened people, I think so. Ben Franklin is one of my all time favorite people. Brilliant, a terrific conversationalist, revolutionary both as a scientist-inventor and Constitutionalist. He thought "outside the box" 200+ years before that tired expression was invented. He had to have some magic, the guy was pudgy, not very attractive even in the pre-GQ days, and yet he had to beat the women off with a stick. Mmm.

And history states that the founders LIKED England (assuming it wasn't the weather). They were proud to be British and part of the largest Empire to that time the world had ever known. Revolution was NOT the first or second choice by any means. I have no doubt that when we eventually told the British to get out, even our founding fathers wanted to stick with England going so far to request King George the Third to APPOINT someone, ANYONE, to represent the American Colonies and our interests.

The Brits took our taxes, prevented us from building any industry that might compete with the mother country, and it gave them natural resources coming out of everyone's ears. Oh, add to that the American Colonies we're also a penal colony before we kicked the Brits out, something people only associate with Australia. But the tax issue was the one the Brits really screwed up, the other things? We weren't screaming REVOLUTION! for any reason BUT taxes. All politicians take note: Don't take the peoples money and ignore them or you'll be out of a job.

History is odd in how things actually work out. Unfortunately for the British at the time we won. And yet it did worked out very well in our support of Britain in both world wars. Had America still been part of the Empire its likely we would never had our industry develop to the extent it did (maybe) and tapping our vast natural resources. to the extent we could because of the former. Our industry pretty much buried everyone else. Most critical in WW-2. Thank God.

I don't mean to sound like an NRA spokesman, I'm not a member though I do own several guns I often use for taking out paper targets. Try it, its remarkably relaxing. But when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. Understandably the founding fathers could no more anticipate semi-auto, fully auto weapons not to mention almost all modern weapons because like TV, if not yet invented you can't miss it or consider the social ramifications. America is awash in and stuck with guns, and no rule to "outlaw them" would be remotely successful.

In the late 1700's I can't fault anyone for not anticipating any advanced technology not to be even thought about and then being able to build with things like interchangeable, mass produced parts, that will exist centuries in the future. No doubt the founders would be speechless, except Ben Franklin of course.

I know I can't whip out the magic ball for prediction but I prefer another way. I cheat. I predict the future by inventing stuff now, that never existed before. Love you Ben, your my hero...
edit on 3/4/12 by arbiture because: correct spelling, but not mine (cat walking on keyboard again...)



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:30 PM
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Time to take the gun from the American people? So that leaves the gun in the hands of criminals.
yeah, real bright thread here



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:31 PM
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Every able bodies natural born US citizen is a member of the Militia whether they are aware of it or not.
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posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:35 PM
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Im going to qoute from what I believe to be a great song by Aaron Lewis




Now two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel
One is the colors that fly high and proud
The red, the white, the blue
The other ones got a rattlesnake with a simple statement made
"Don't tread on me" is what it says and I'll take that to my grave
Because, this is me
I'm proud to be American and strong in my beliefs

And I've said it before but I'll say it again
Cause I've never needed government to hold my hand
And I've said it before but I'll say it again
Cause my family has always fought and died to save this land
And a country boy is all I'll ever be

I love my country, I love my guns, I love my family
I love the way it is now, and anybody that tries to change it
Has to come through me, that should be all our attitudes
'cause this is America and a country boy is good enough for me son


People outside of the United States honestly don't understand, thats all it is. If you don't live here you honestly IMO have no right to tell us how to live our lives.

When I took my oath for the USMC we swore to "Protect the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic"



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:40 PM
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You are missing the point. I am assuming you are from the UK, or some other country overly concerned with what goes on in the US. If you are from the US, then shame on you for not understanding your heritage. We are not "allowed" to own guns. It is an inalienable right, granted to us by our creator. The 2nd amendment of our constitution simply says that the federal government cannot interfere with that. That is all it says. It is the right of the people, an individual right. The supreme court has said it is so. Just recently, in case you missed it. I do own guns. I will always own guns. Regardless of the government position on such ownership. The cases you highlighted in your post are no doubt the acts of criminals with "illegal" guns. Though I admit I did not actually bother to read them. I have heard so many such rants many times before. The shrill voice of the ill-equipped liberal. Some body please protect me, there is a bad man outside. Hello? There will always be criminals. It is part of the human condition. And there will always be those that are willing to oppose them. Also part of the human condition. My advice to you, is to be prepared to oppose such criminals. There may not be some other human nearby to protect you should the need arise...



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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Nope.Bad idea



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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No. I refuse to surrender what is guaranteed to me.


If you don't like that....




Let me know how it works out for you.
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posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by TerribleTeam2
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

So all the Americans on the ATS boards that own firearms, and constantly state that the 2nd Amendment protects your right to bear Arms, tell me this - how man of you are actually part of a well regulated Militia??? I'll bet less than 1%.................


Well when it comes to church and state you yell "PRECEDENT!!!" When it comes to abortion you yell "PRECEDENT!!!"

What has the USSC consistently ruled in regards to the 2nd Amendment?

/facepalm

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posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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Are you nuts?! If they took my gun away, how do I protect myself and my family from these whack jobs shooting up the place?!?! Are you going to swoop in and save the day??

If it's illegal for us to carry, than only the criminals and the cops (which can be one and the same sometimes) will have guns, and law-abiding citizens will be left unarmed and incapable of protecting themselves.

No S+F



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by TerribleTeam2
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

So all the Americans on the ATS boards that own firearms, and constantly state that the 2nd Amendment protects your right to bear Arms, tell me this - how man of you are actually part of a well regulated Militia??? I'll bet less than 1%.................


We don't say militia, because to the govt militia means terrorist. Gotta be more subtle.

I have tried to form one, but I think silence says more than organizing. As someone above stated, we are all born into it, every able bodied American citizen. We all know our rights, and our duty to this beautiful country.

200+ million gun owners in this country, I think we are ok. If they want my gun, whoever the tyrant may be, I will give it to them one bullet at a time until I feel nothing. God bless.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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Well as stated above, Auto wrecks killed more people last month than guns. So what you want to take away cars too yes. Lets not be selective if we are going to prevent death. Start with the real killers. Like abortions. You care about a guy who got shot but have no stand for the unborn?. The list goes on. Heck a ball point pen is a weapon.

Yawn, seems like a trole post to get the pro gun lobby in here riled up. on a fresh list.
OP where did you say your from?






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