reply to post by lacrimaererum
First of all, I know I recently stated this in response to another post is you have more guns outside the police and military, owned legally, or not
(most are legal by the way) then we have people in my country. A conservative figure of the US population is about 316 to 320,000,000 people.
(300++million). The reasons are very complex as to why Americans have such a fixation on weapons but aside from needing to hunt and deal with the odd
pissed off grisly bear it was appreciated well by the founders that one thing that was done in nations in particular in Europe was to prohibit persons
from owning firearms.* (Please forgive the preamble but to understand Americans and our passion for guns, some back ground).
*That made revolt from tyrannical governments a tad more problematic. I guess the subjects could throw rocks. And actually until the late 1800's the
bow and arrow in trained hands was far more "rapid fire" then weapons up until then, the exception the Colt .45 six shooter revolver. Don't believe
me? Ask George Armstrong Custer if one can pull off a seance.
Now needless to say that the founders were very bright, indeed amazingly enlightened people, I think so. Ben Franklin is one of my all time favorite
people. Brilliant, a terrific conversationalist, revolutionary both as a scientist-inventor and Constitutionalist. He thought "outside the box" 200+
years before that tired expression was invented. He had to have some magic, the guy was pudgy, not very attractive even in the pre-GQ days, and yet he
had to beat the women off with a stick. Mmm.
And history states that the founders LIKED England (assuming it wasn't the weather). They were proud to be British and part of the largest Empire to
that time the world had ever known. Revolution was NOT the first or second choice by any means. I have no doubt that when we eventually told the
British to get out, even our founding fathers wanted to stick with England going so far to request King George the Third to APPOINT someone, ANYONE,
to represent the American Colonies and our interests.
The Brits took our taxes, prevented us from building any industry that might compete with the mother country, and it gave them natural resources
coming out of everyone's ears. Oh, add to that the American Colonies we're also a penal colony before we kicked the Brits out, something people only
associate with Australia. But the tax issue was the one the Brits really screwed up, the other things? We weren't screaming REVOLUTION! for any reason
BUT taxes. All politicians take note: Don't take the peoples money and ignore them or you'll be out of a job.
History is odd in how things actually work out. Unfortunately for the British at the time we won. And yet it did worked out very well in our support
of Britain in both world wars. Had America still been part of the Empire its likely we would never had our industry develop to the extent it did
(maybe) and tapping our vast natural resources. to the extent we could because of the former. Our industry pretty much buried everyone else. Most
critical in WW-2. Thank God.
I don't mean to sound like an NRA spokesman, I'm not a member though I do own several guns I often use for taking out paper targets. Try it, its
remarkably relaxing. But when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. Understandably the founding fathers could no more anticipate semi-auto,
fully auto weapons not to mention almost all modern weapons because like TV, if not yet invented you can't miss it or consider the social
ramifications. America is awash in and stuck with guns, and no rule to "outlaw them" would be remotely successful.
In the late 1700's I can't fault anyone for not anticipating any advanced technology not to be even thought about and then being able to build with
things like interchangeable, mass produced parts, that will exist centuries in the future. No doubt the founders would be speechless, except Ben
Franklin of course.
I know I can't whip out the magic ball for prediction but I prefer another way. I cheat. I predict the future by inventing stuff now, that never
existed before. Love you Ben, your my hero...
edit on 3/4/12 by arbiture because: correct spelling, but not mine (cat walking on keyboard