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Did the Christians lie about Jesus Resurrection? Jesus did not die by Crucifiction!

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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by swan001
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That is great!!!
So, did Jesus Christ died or did came back to life? I think there is a possibility he (He) came back to life maybe by entering in a auto-accumulated black hole or space-time failiure.


It's the most indisputable fact in human history and most well documented. That's why everyone attacks the crucifixion, and attacks his death. They have no rational rebuttal to the resurrection. The shroud of Turin is the physical evidence. But it's just a piece of cloth, don't worship it like the Catholics do, it's just evidence. His body was resurrected, It wasn't an NDE, His body was changed from the atomic level. Heck, from the subatomic Quantum level. From that point on He was multi-dimensional, He could pass through walls, he could transport from here to there at the speed of thought, not light.

We're all due for that resurrected body someday, it's called "glorification" or the future tense usages of the term "salvation" in the Bible.


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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 01:50 PM
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Yes. I believe that Jesus ressucisate... Well, greatly radiated or have been radiated by electromagnetic field to leave a radiation signature on his ''shroud of Turin''. Apparently he went into an unknown state that maybe enabled him to go to another multiverse - and come back to the past or future depending on the holes in this other multivers. Maybe that is why he is assumed ''eternal'': maybe he can skip timelines and step out in wathever points in our timeline. To him only minutes have passed, but to us eons have passed. (physic's relativity of Einstein).



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by autowrench

Originally posted by freebornman
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So. you think the purpose of religeon is to prevent us having anal sex? Wow.

From what I know, they would be the most happy if you didn't have sex at all. Religions of the Book variety are for one thing only, to brainwash people into thinking they are not of Divine Origin, and for full control of that people. The only TRUE religion is Love Abounding. Once you experience that, everything else falls away.


God said to be fruitful and multiply upon the face of the Earth. We defend the lives of babies sacrificed to Moloch in their mother's wombs. But sure, we hate sex, which last time I checked is necessary for procreation. (I know there are test tube babies, save the red herring for another thread.) God gave us orgasms to enjoy sex.

Read Song of Solomon sometime, the Bible isn't NC-17.


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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by swan001
Yes. I believe that Jesus ressucisate... Well, greatly radiated or have been radiated by electromagnetic field to leave a radiation signature on his ''shroud of Turin''. Apparently he went into an unknown state that maybe enabled him to go to another multiverse - and come back to the past or future depending on the holes in this other multivers. Maybe that is why he is assumed ''eternal'': maybe he can skip timelines and step out in wathever points in our timeline. To him only minutes have passed, but to us eons have passed. (physic's relativity of Einstein).


Not exactly. There was a fracture between our reality and the spirit world at the curse after the fall. Our "reality" is the 4 dimensions we can see, the physical if you will, the other remaining dimensions are the spiritual reality, the metaphysical. Angels, either fallen or holy, are multi-dimensional entities who can materialize here and dematerialize at will.

The spirit world is the true analog reality, this 4 dimensional reality is the digital one. We are but in a subset of the larger more real reality.


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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 02:53 PM
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For those that like "Critical Thinking", which won't appeal to those telling Jesus was a space alien lost in some other dimension, I have several good reading books by "Manly Palmer Hall" to help with the gathering of higher information.

Hall was one of those special people that dug up all this information on religion's origins and became so good at it he won the Mason 33 rd Degree without going through the Masonic Steps. If you ever wanted to surpass what the Mason's learned in short series of englightenment books, then this is the ticket to higher knowledge.

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The Lost Keys of Freemasonry (Also Includes: Freemasonry of the Ancient Egyptians / Masonic Orders of Fraternity)

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The Secret Destiny of America [Paperback]


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The Secret Teachings of All Ages (Reader's Edition) [Illustrated]

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While many thousands of copies have sold since its initial publication in 1928, The Secret Teachings of All Ages has previously been available only in oversized, expensive editions. For the first time, Hall's celebrated classic is now published in an affordable trade paperback volume. Literally hundreds of entries shine a rare light on some of the most fascinating and closely held aspects of myth, religion, and philosophy from throughout the centuries.

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Then you see what the Masons that designed the Constitution knew and how they put their best effort into making the US work. And in the process you'll discover religion's dishonesty.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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For those that like "Critical Thinking", which won't appeal to those telling Jesus was a space alien lost in some other dimension, I have several good reading books by "Manly Palmer Hall" to help with the gathering of higher information.


Would that be the very same Manly P. Hall I liked earlier singing the praises of Lucifer?

And don't use "critical thinking" in the same breath you use a straw man fallacy. That's ridiculous.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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You are not contributing to answer the question: How did Jesus died? A small explanation from you could help us and the others see your opinion. Some of us don't have time to read the books in your links.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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And a few others:

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Easter: Christian or Pagan?
by D.M. Murdock/Acharya S

Contrary to popular belief, Easter does not represent the "historical" crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ. In reality, the gospel tale reflects the annual "crossification" of the sun through the vernal equinox (Spring), at which time the sun is "resurrected," as the day begins to become longer than the night.

Rather than being a "Christian" holiday, Easter celebrations date back into remotest antiquity and are found around the world, as the blossoming of spring did not escape the notice of the ancients, who revered this life-renewing time of the year, when winter had passed and the sun was "born again." The "Pagan" Easter is also the Passover, and Jesus Christ represents not only the sun but also the Passover Lamb ritually sacrificed every year by a number of cultures, including the Egyptians, possibly as early as 4,000 years ago and continuing to this day in some places.

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Easter: The Resurrection of Spring
by D.M. Murdock/Acharya S
Although it is believed to represent the time of Jesus Christ's resurrection, the festival of Easter existed in pre-Christian times and, according to the famous Christian saint Venerable Bede (672-735 AD/CE), was named for the Teutonic or German goddess Eôstre, who was the "goddess of dawn" and who symbolized the fertility found abundantly during the springtime of the year.

The springtime/Easter resurrection myth occurred in Greek mythology with the tale of Kore/Persephone descending into the underworld to reside with Hades, leading to the death of winter. Her remergence out of the underworld represented the springtime renewal of life on Earth - thus, Persephone's resurrection symbolized eternal life, precisely as did that of Jesus and the Egyptian god Osiris.

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freethoughtnation.com...

Most Americans hip to Easter's real meaning?
by D.M. Murdock/Acharya S
An interesting article in "The Baptist Standard" claims that fewer than half of all Americans associate Easter with the resurrection of Jesus! That's very surprising, considering that some 80% of American citizens define themselves as Christians. Although this article does not say - it seems to avoid the subject, in fact - that all these people recognize Easter as a pre-Christian Pagan holiday, it would not be surprising if a significant percentage of them do so know the real meaning of this "Christian" celebration.

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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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We are not talking about Easter. This thread is talking about the ressurection of Jesus: do you think he did it, or that he didn't do it??



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by swan001
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You are not contributing to answer the question: How did Jesus died? A small explanation from you could help us and the others see your opinion. Some of us don't have time to read the books in your links.


I have said a number of times:

Jesus didn't die on the tree, he was taken down early, and survived the Trauma.

He didn't become god and no unexplained miracles took place.

He left Jersusalem as he became well enough to travel far.


Organized Church Christian Easter is a made up distortion of what happened.


If you noticed the theme's title: Jesus did not die by Crucifiction----emphasis on Fiction. and Not god.


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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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I see. Thank you for your opinion.
Actually, some documents do approve you, especially when you said he traveled (Jesus) far. Some say to India.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by MagnumOpus

Originally posted by swan001
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You are not contributing to answer the question: How did Jesus died? A small explanation from you could help us and the others see your opinion. Some of us don't have time to read the books in your links.


I have said a number of times:

Jesus didn't die, he was taken down early, and survived the Trauma.

He didn't become god and no unexplained miracles took place.

He left Jersusalem as he became well enough to travel far.


Indeed you have said that stuff numerous times.

And since you're proved absolutely none of it, saying it a number of times is just an ad nauseum fallacy.


Organized Church Christian Easter is a made up distortion of what happened.


Yup, that's from the whore the Catholic Church in Rome. The early Christians celebrated Passover.


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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Should we not start a new thread for this kind of discussion? I thought here was the ''ressuciatation'' topic.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by swan001
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You are not contributing to answer the question: How did Jesus died? A small explanation from you could help us and the others see your opinion. Some of us don't have time to read the books in your links.


Jesus dies by men in power who wanted to keep knowledge of the truth to themselves... Ideology such as the ones who done away with him are the ones who inadvertently let his spirit out into the world. How can one kill the truth of Jesus? the spirit is so real in all of us that even a shroud does not need to be shown.

Try to demonize Jesus is the best they can do by trying to trick people now into believing he was the antichrist.

you just can't keep a good man down...


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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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Great opinion! This is a great explanation to consider. Thank you for exposing you thoughts with a calm civilised manner. It feels great to actually talk in here instead of heated attacks.
So, you're saying that Jesus died, but his teachings survived in each of us?
This is something I have not considered. He would effectively be ''eternal'' that way.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by swan001
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Should we not start a new thread for this kind of discussion? I thought here was the ''ressuciatation'' topic.


You're new here, they all get derailed. But if you begin one I will enjoy discussing in it.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:40 PM
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Organized Church Christian Easter is a made up distortion of what happened.


If you noticed the theme's title: Jesus did not die by Crucifiction----emphasis on Fiction. and Not god.


Well then stop posting about Easter. ^^

It has nothing to do with Passover or Christ's resurrection from the dead.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:40 PM
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Well, my new thread would probably be in science if I have to choose. Totally unrelated to here.



posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:43 PM
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Try to demonize Jesus is the best they can do by trying to trick people now into believing he was the antichrist.


And not to mention "ante" in the Greek doesn't mean opposite of/against. It means "in place of/before" (example: anteNicean fathers). The antichrist will be someone who sits in the temple who claims he is god with all signs and lying wonders. Jesus said this man would come in his own name and the whole world would follow after him in a demonic trance. He'll come and try to convince the world he is the real Jesus of Nazareth. The Muslims are waiting for this fake Jesus too, he's supposed to appear with the Mahdi.


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posted on Apr, 8 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by swan001
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Well, my new thread would probably be in science if I have to choose. Totally unrelated to here.


Word it carefully then, if not it will be moved here by a mod.



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