Computer games make children violent...again apparently...

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Checked the search but nothing came up and mods please feel free to move this to whatever forum required, but I'd post it all over seeing as its technology (computers), social issues and unrest (psycological), poltical conspiracy ( programming the masses)

According to this report violent computer games make children indulge in a fantasy world, and become aggressive?.?.

Angry German Kid anyone?
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or how about this future classic
I have super powerrrrssss..
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Both of these videos are funny as hell to watch but also can be attributed to Video games ( ohnooooeesss). both these kids need to step away from the keyboard and monitor for a while ( except the German kid, his keyboards all over the floor)

Go to the link above ( hopefully it loaded ), and read for yourself the nanny state wants to enlighten you to the 'truth' that violent games make children angry.
I'm an adult who plays a few games both on PC and online, and I have to agree to an extent, there are a lot of immature gamers who think its funny to annoy others, cast insults, and generally be a nuisance to the gaming experience.
But I really don't think that only the games are to blame, TV plays a huge role, after all whats on the daily news stations? let me guess , war, war , anger at the economy, war, occupy.

War is emblasoned across our screens, both at home and at the cinema, glorifying it, making it look like fun to the younger generations, over the years I have noticed a fairly steady decline in gamer quality and I have been playing since the first home pc's came out in the 80's and now there is so much anger, hatred and negative vibes from society that it is all having a knockon effect.
And sure the media companies 'inform' us as to the age of films or games with age 'restrictions' but kids are still able to view and play this material as there is no real policing of it, but who's going to do it? the parents? not a chance, keep the kids quiet, stick a film on. put on the Xbox and let them play warriors.
Look at the new Xbox games where ' you are the controller', all the games do is teach them that they too can cast fireballs if they scream hard enough, or learn 'combat' kungfu and maybe they can use it on the streets?

Sure violent PC games cause kids to become angry, but so does TV and Cinema but does anyone complain about that? no,
If the nanny governments really wanted to turn this world into one thats positive for humanity, stop violent films, stop violent music, stop all wars or at least televising them.
But no shock and horror sell to a brainwashed public and games telling you that 'your side' is the good guys and the 'bad guys' must die but dont worry coz you get an extra life in a game, or a bullet hole in the movies hero is simply shrugged off as he's the hero and can't die is just nonsense.

Better yet turn it ALL off and go read a book.

You absolutely have a point there. We must stop this madness.

Drag the young lads and Ladies away from their desks and let them have a nose full of outside reality !

Show them our eroded woods, our polluted rivers, let them play on our oil smeared beaches, let them stroll along the slums of Africa and sing along with the child slave workers in China and India, and breathe the fresh smell of the nearest smogtown, that will help keeping them docile and without any aggression, and especially take away their desire to play games at all.

I've been playing video games for over 20 years and I'm one of the least violent people I know. I don't even like to kill spiders! If a child is violent, it's the parent's fault for not teaching that child to not be a tool. But no, lets hate on games, something that actually requires thinking and fine motor skills (hello, mouse+keyboard dexterity/hand and eye coordination), and leave the vegetating TV alone.

Unplugging is important though, as you say.

All I know is that they will have to drag my first person shooter games from my cold dead hands.

LOLZ these storys crack me up EVERY SINGLE TIME..

You see.

In these days in 2000, kidz are born without parents.
They just pop out and start behaving badly.
Now IF we were still in my days, the parents
would guide and help their children in day to day
life.
So, if a kid today find a PC game that looks funny
like Assassin Creed or something, its the games fault
that the kid is behaving bad...

No?!?

I know where you're coming from. But i have to disagree that games play this role. I've heard it time and time again that 'violent videogames cause violence', and while i agree that some people should not be exposed to such things, that is not the video games fault, that is the parents fault for allowing their child to become so enamoured with a game that they become obsessed (World of warcraft freakouts anyone?).

Gaming addiction is a problem. (And from that comes violence, like taking away a crack addicts crack, it's not going to go over well)

Violence is ingrained in society now, its everywhere. On TV, Games, Movies, Books. Etc etc. That is why they do not sell violent games (MSRP 18+) to minors. If minors are getting a hold of these 18+ games, then that is also on the parents.

I've been playing videogames since i was 6 years old, As it stands now, I am not violent in the least.

If anything, Videogames actually help one wind down from the day, and helps displace anger and all sorts of emotions in that range. Nothing more stress relieving then shooting pixel people in the face.

I would just like to make note that my fiance spent last night playing Bulletstorm, and not ONCE did she try to kick me through the wall or chase me down with a giant remote control dinosaur machine gun (baddest gun in the history of gaming, IMHO!!!).

Next they're gonna say that webisodes about video games, like the infamous Red vs. Blue, are causing kinds to become violent because some concerned parent will see their high school kid chanting "KILL THE REDS! KILL THE REDS!" and laughing about it (I suppose it could be taken out of context *shrug*).

Arent they all too fat, pasty and weak to be violent?

All that sitting and button clicking couldnt manifest itself in an outburst any more substantial than a 30 second hissy fit followed by hyperventilation and pants wetting.

Dave Grossman touched on this a bit in "On Killing." www.killology.com...

Says if we wanted to raise an apathetic bunch of drones who'll do what they're told by a chosen figurehead and not hesitate to use violence as a means to an end we couldnt have chosen a better method than military themed video games.

He comes back to discipline being the real problem though. Not just the media. Whine enough and they get what they want, parents are self centered making the kids even more self centered, every moron is "special", etc...

Still, just a bunch of weak fatties throwing hissy fits. But I guess saying so makes me a bully? Better coddle them some more and enact some "anti-bullying legislation.

Funny they're supposed to be aggressive and violent yet they cant deal with a little name-calling or cope with Simon Cowell not liking their singing.

I've felt from the beginning of the video game phenomenon that these things encourage less than ethical behavior in our offspring, particularly as they fight the war in the Middle East.

I think they view the Iraqis and the Afghans as two-dimensional characters to be blown away rather than as human beings.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Arent they all too fat, pasty and weak to be violent?

All that sitting and button clicking couldnt manifest itself in an outburst any more substantial than a 30 second hissy fit followed by hyperventilation and pants wetting.

Dave Grossman touched on this a bit in "On Killing." www.killology.com...

Says if we wanted to raise an apathetic bunch of drones who'll do what they're told by a chosen figurehead and not hesitate to use violence as a means to an end we couldnt have chosen a better method than military themed video games.

He comes back to discipline being the real problem though. Not just the media. Whine enough and they get what they want, parents are self centered making the kids even more self centered, every moron is "special", etc...

Still, just a bunch of weak fatties throwing hissy fits. But I guess saying so makes me a bully? Better coddle them some more and enact some "anti-bullying legislation.

Funny they're supposed to be aggressive and violent yet they cant deal with a little name-calling or cope with Simon Cowell not liking their singing.

Generalization, That is just parenting again.
Im a gamer,
I am fat, yes
Pasty, no
Weak? Wan't me to punch you and find out? (not weak =P)

Bullying legislation? That never works. Bullies are gunna bully. So just kick their ass.

It's really funny "Lets blame everything else, but avoid the cause of the actual problem". Much like starvation in africa. Blaming all of these things that have nothing to do with the actual problem. Same with war in the middle east. Blame someone and avoid the real cause of the issue.

What videogames (and tv and movies and music) are doing is 'desensitizing' people to violence. Why do you think the anti-war effort is not as strong as it should be? Its a means to disassociate with what war really is. To desensitize us to it so they can continue to do it.

I saw this news a while back: blog.cleveland.com...

Apparently hiding the game in the same lockbox that his gun was in was a bad idea. He also had been sick for a very long time, which might attribute to his behavior. I have been a gamer for many years myself, and it is an addiction, just like alchohol and drugs, with the "escape reality" feeling. I don't play as much anymore because the players have become more abrasive, insulting, and rude, especially in the MMO worlds. Most the things they say in chat channels would get thim a foot to their teeth in the real world, but they know they can "get away" with anything they want to. Hence, they think they can get away with murder. Peace! Xenongod

I guess that the world was at peace before the 1970's

i think TPTB are afraid that their sheeple are becoming less docile despite their best efforts to dumb them down, shut them up, and keep them from revolting.

these kids are confused and angry, but with the tools of critical thinking removed from schools, and with many in this new generation of parents acting as if the children they pop out are just a burden that they try to ignore rather than teach, it is no wonder that a lot of these children are lashing out at whatever catches their attention.

Considering the new methods of "teaching", it is no wonder a lot of these kids dont even consider why they are angry. they have been taught that thinking critically, especially about authority, is a no-no.

Even though they have huge hurdles placed in front of them which are designed to keep them from questioning authority, the existence of those hurdles inevitably becomes more and more visible to them.

i think our saving grace is TPTB didnt realize during implementation that the larger the walls you build around a person, the more time and purpose that person has to question the existence of said walls. even if it is subconsciously, the need for survival seems to be kicking in.

TPTB probably realized this soon after implementation and have subsequently been waving flashier and more ridiculous distractions at their prisoners...

yet inevitably there comes the breaking point when all those distractions no longer satisfy the person.

i believe at this point in time most of these kids are at this stage, although they dont understand the true purpose behind the walls(or who the jailors are), they recognize that they are being kept from something greater than the box they have forced into since kindergarten.

just like an elephant at the circus, while they havent quite figured out how to escape their mental prison, they will attack anything foreign to their environment because it might be the jailors(they havent figured out that those jailors are standing right in front of them yet).

while the whip might still be effective in bringing them back into a submissive mode, the thing these jailors fear most(the elephants realizing it is all an illusion) is happening despite(and in reality in response to) the ever tightening leash.

i believe all this anger being directed at anything and everything that agitates their world view is a precursor to the elephants realizing their situation and subsequently focusing that anger into escaping to freedom(and trampling those jailors along the way).

i also believe that the jailors realize what is happening and are trying to get the older elephants to help corral the younger and more "unstable" ones.

i think that is the true purpose behind all these articles about the young, angry elephants... to keep the older elephants in check and to actually enlist their unwitting help in making sure the younger ones fall in line.

so resist your own mental prison and guide the anger of those children to its true destination, and maybe you can escape yourself.

The Bible and other religious texts makes people more violent than video games.

I never got why everyone is hating on games. Their claim is that the extreme violence in video games, TV, and cinema teach the children to arm up and scream, and that will solve every little problem. They then say that this is caused by the constant bombardment of violence. Next they say that everyone should pick up a book and start reading.
TV and video games merely let a person watch some avatar create havoc and destruction on an immense scale, but not watch themselves create violence. The source of the violence is external. The person is not doing anything to cause it but push a few buttons which, if there is no mental illness, the person should know would never cause violence in reality. Books, however, are merley guidelines, or instructions, on how to visualize the violence within my mind. The violence would be made and seen by me with only instructions, otherwise known as the book, on how to see them. Take Game of Thrones for example. I read the book and 'saw' everything in my head. The words on the pages just told me how to be able to visualize it, but I am the one who made it all happen before me, within my mind. Shouldn't that have a greater effect in causing violence in my personality since I am making it myself with only instructions telling me how? The TV show made the violence appear before me, yet it was not 'made' by me. I hope this is a good explanation on my theory.
Just to say, I love my books. The day they come for my books is the day I go to war. The same applies to my video games.

I think there may be something to this after witnessing my missus son knock ten bells out of his little sister and school friends everytime he watches Ben 10...

After he was banned from watching it (after splitting a school mate lip and punching 10 others in the schoolyard) the violence stopped and normal bright kid service resumed..

That woman who penned that "report" should be slapped for missing the bloody obvious and blaming something else...

If kids that are 4 or 5 years old have TV's, laptops and consoles in their rooms (much less that they are allowed to play age rated games!) then it is simply and solely the parents fault...

But no, it's the computer games fault.. What the 18 rated ones that 5 year olds have no place AT ALL even watching, let alone playing? Do people allow 5 year olds to watch Saw? That's an 18 rated film... Don't see that or other films getting slated though, let's just blame the computer games!

Morons..

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Maybe that's the point of her report.

By attributing the behavior to the games maybe she's hoping that parents will realize sitting their first grader down in front of Call of Duty isnt the best thing they could be doing.

There are little kids playing these M rated games all over the world. Parents or guardians either dont care or they dont believe the ratings.

Would these same parents sit their kid down in front of porno for 2,3,4, 6 hours a day? That's also rated for adults. After all the kid isnt actually going out and having sex with people. He's just watching depictions of the act. But then we here in America have this messed up view of sex where we hide it and shun it more than a child stomping on somebodys head or mowing down bystanders on the street.

The industry was nice enough to regulate itself with these ratings. What good does it do if parents dont pay attention? Of course negligent parents just lead the way for government intervention. Nobody wants that now.