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BREAKING : Oakland, Calif. school shooting. (Oikos University)

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posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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The Feds have arrived, which is always a red flag for a covert op:

sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com...=cfs-1.0
...agents with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms arrived at the scene to assist OPD.




posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 03:31 AM
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For those who keep asking "why" I recently completed a very intense research project on this subject and might be able to help explain.

A large number of the people who do this are psychopaths. The classic definition of a psychopath "is a personality disorder characterized by a pervasive pattern of disregard for the rights of others and the rules of society. Psychopaths have a total lack of empathy and remorse, and have very shallow emotions. They are generally regarded as callous, selfish, dishonest, arrogant, aggressive, impulsive, irresponsible, and hedonistic".

Most serial killers are psychopaths as are most school shooters (at least one of the Columbine shooters was diagnosed as being a full blown psychopath).

Unlike certain other mental health related diagnosis, psychopaths actually have physical differences in the brain that can be detected and measured. The activity in their brains looks nothing like a normal persons.

Unfortunately another trait is the ability to manipulate people, fool people including law enforcement officers, Doctors, therapists, psychiatrists, etc. Most of the school shooters shared a common back story of being obsessed with committing mass murder in a way that would make them famous and "inspire others to follow their example". The Columbine killers left behind journals and hours of videos made for this purpose including detailed instructions on how to reach that goal.

The other aspect these killers have in common is that they want helpless, submissive victims in order to magnify the feeling of power the act will give them (they hope). This is such a driving goal for these people that once they accomplish it they either hope to be killed by the police or will kill themselves. Another common trait I found interesting is that among these people who actually went through with their plans, most of them quickly became "bored" fairly quickly and ended their rampages far short of reaching their goals in terms of number of people they hoped to kill, etc.

They target schools because there are a lot of helpless people in a relatively small space (fish in a barrel), they know there will be no other armed people there to stop them before the police arrive (and they know most police departments will contain the perimeter and will not try to enter the school, giving them even more time).

Columbine was unique in that it involved a pair of shooters, this was due to a pairing behavior where a depressive / passive (Klebold) chooses to follow a psychopath (Harris). This weird bond is not unheard of among "partners in crime" though a male and female couple is much more common.

The saddest bit of trivia is that in almost every case, the shooter had previous interactions with the law, mental health, etc and people missed picking up on the indicators.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 04:01 AM
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Then the whole government thing is psychopathic, because government and its tools has no empathy, compassion etc... Only cold calculation of profit.

What are you talking about? Ever heard of a crime out of passion? Those people are likely to be pardoned for their crimes committed out of emotional explosion. But when we have to face the truth, we say psychopath is an emotionless bastard whose action is senseless. This case is God given to cover up numerous injustice and crimes committed by government, the system over millions of peoples by using such misinterpretation of this extreme case. Just watch how they are going to use this as an excuse for more oppression.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 05:02 AM
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Too bad none of the students or teachers had firearms, this would likely not have occured at all. Either that or it would have ended pretty damn quick. It's a shame people rely on this false sense of security provided by Law Enforcment. There is a reason they aren't called protectors, they can't protect anyone.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 05:26 AM
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They have invented "compassion" to replace ethics, as if compassion really existed.
Will someone tell me that greed is not an emotion and that Wall Street bankers are nice, emotional, compassionate beings incapable of crime?



This murder will readily be used to confuse people even more about how good it is being emotional and dazed.

From CNN report

edition.cnn.com...


The man walked into a classroom, lined up students against a wall and shot them one by one, Jordan said.

"This was a calculated, cold-blooded execution in the classroom," he said.

After the shooting, the man left the classroom, reloaded his semi-automatic weapon and returned, Jordan said.


This guy was trained, which means CONDITIONED to do this. He was not calculated, cold-blooded, he was intentionally desensitized and trained to act like this.

People are forgetting that ideas can do the same job as emotions. They are 100% replacing each other. Norwegian killer was also ideologically conditioned to massacre those people. This is a repeating event.

Being ideologically brainwashed is the same as being emotionally brainwashed. Remember those Pakistani "honor" murder of daughters? That was clearly conditioning in action. Those people don't think, they act after a trigger has been pulled.


"This happened within minutes," Jordan said. "We don't think the victims had any opportunity to resist; any opportunity to surrender."


Same thing as with government approved assassinations by UAV and other means all around world - psychopathic? Yes. But, psychopaths rule.

Remember, there was a murder in Oakland a few years ago, when a policeman of the railroad murdered a cuffed man. Wasn't he kinda pardoned for what he did? The same thing, double standard.

And the Zimmerman case, similar thing, only the system supports it.

This massacre was planned and executed by the system. There is a hidden, but not so well, agenda to this.


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posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 05:57 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 05:59 AM
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duplicate off topic
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posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 06:03 AM
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reminds me of the Manchurian candidate..



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by sacraficiallamb
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reminds me of the Manchurian candidate..


Yes. Only, it is not necessary to create such monsters on an individual basis. The whole population is so conditioned and big enough that there will always be "accidents". But, the real work is done in mass media which is used as propaganda to push certain measures and destroy constitutional rights. MSM will use these accidents for further conditioning and confusing masses. It's the way they "interpret" such events that is important to debunk. There is always a punchline about "emotional" reaction of witnesses, non-emotional attitude of the actor, and another check punchline about how he wasn't taking his prescribed medication.

One of the most impressive event was mass internment of Japanese Americans during WWII. This was a side effect, actually. It really was more for their protection from enraged Americans whose relatives and friends were killed in war, and overwhelmed by pictures of mass murder from some battlefield, and would certainly produce rampage and lynching of any Japanese looking person. But the ongoing "approach" is whether this was constitutional or some such nonsense.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 07:48 AM
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Well, it is April, after all.
It's mass murder season.
13 years since Columbine.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 08:20 AM
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Or maybe, just maybe, some people who own guns legally / illegally are mentally unstable and use them in instances like this. Maybe that's why Government's seek gun control.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by starviego
The Feds have arrived, which is always a red flag for a covert op:


I wonder how long it will take now, before we see another politician standing up and crying hysterically for another round of gun control laws, in order to make sure we protect the poor, darling children from these supposedly completely random psychopaths that just magically appear.

There is an all out war being waged on the Second Amendment, and the government won't mind how many American children get blown away in order for it to secure its' goals.
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posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 08:59 AM
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A CA resident can't go to a neighboring state to purchase a firearm, unless then become a resident of that state.

But, I do see the pieces being lined up to push for more, unconstitutional gun laws and restrictions.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 09:00 AM
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Yep.
Blame the gun, and not the person.

Punish those that follow the current laws by making the unconstitutional laws even more restrictive.

Good lord this country is circling the drain.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by ecoparity


Columbine was unique in that it involved a pair of shooters, this was due to a pairing behavior where a depressive / passive (Klebold) chooses to follow a psychopath (Harris). This weird bond is not unheard of among "partners in crime" though a male and female couple is much more common.


I think you've been reading Cullen?
Dylan Klebold was no passive depressive.
He had been talking about going NBK long before Harris even moved to Colorado.
Both were equally involved.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by Shadow Herder
I think it is time to implement tougher gun control laws.


Yes, lets make more areas where the shooters will know thay'll have the only gun.

Or, we could try people control.

No gun has ever jumped up and shot or robbed anyone.

As far as columbine goes, maybe we should ban propane tanks.

From Littleton Police,

"The two largest bombs built were found in the school cafeteria and were made from small propane tanks. Only one of these bombs went off, only partially detonating. It was estimated that if any of the bombs placed in the cafeteria had detonated properly, the blast could have caused extensive structural damage to the school and resulted in casualties in the hundreds"
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posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by AGWskeptic

Originally posted by Shadow Herder
I think it is time to implement tougher gun control laws.


As far as columbine goes, maybe we should ban propane tanks.

From Littleton Police,

"The two largest bombs built were found in the school cafeteria and were made from small propane tanks. Only one of these bombs went off, only partially detonating. It was estimated that if any of the bombs placed in the cafeteria had detonated properly, the blast could have caused extensive structural damage to the school and resulted in casualties in the hundreds"
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Yes, and the alarm clocks that they used as timers.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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www.examiner.com...
A woman who was shopping at the market said this of Goh: "He didn't look like he had a sign of relief on him. He didn't look like he had much of any emotion on his face."

The Manchurian Candidate-type shooter if often noted to have an expressionless mask on his face.



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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Your signature: Jeff was a member here, wasn't he?



posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
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Your signature: Jeff was a member here, wasn't he?


He was.

I'd suspect there are a few psychopaths in our ranks.

I would even suggest that there are more here than you would find on the average forum, just based on the subject material.



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