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Originally posted by CoherentlyConfused
reply to post by Snoopy1978
The FDA is the one that needs to go. The EPA is bad enough but they're no where near as evil. Monsanto would not be as powerful as it is without its FDA buddies to party with on the weekends.
Originally posted by Cygnis
They've lost they're minds.. bunch of zombies running the world..
Originally posted by BiggerPicture
the insect version of MRSA!
As published in the WALL STREET JOURNAL,
Here's a living example where Monsanto Bt Corn (GE spliced with Bacillus thuringiensis DNA which provides an in-plant pesticide on rootworms and caterpillars)... has FAILED and the corn plants have lost pest resistance in the WORST way: the rootworms, earworms, and caterpillars in subsequent generations have developed a mutant strain RESISTANT to Bacillus thuringiensis which had never yet occured before Monsanto splicing the Bt into Corn genes and upon consumption passing on a Bt resistant strain in subsequent generation.
Great, just great, way to go Monsanto, now farmers cannot rely on the the natural Bacillus thuringiensis toxin naturally present in the soil to help keep earworms & rootworms at bay... because Monsanto's bT GMO corn has passed on a mutation for resistance to bT toxin to them
The EPA has determined that resistance to Monsanto's BT genetically modified corn appears to be evolving in the rootworm population. Monsanto appears to have not expected such rapid failure of this GMO crop, which was just introduced in 2003, to control rootworms. EPA has determined that Monsanto's response to performance failures it cannot explain are inadequate.
Originally posted by 1nfiniteLoopAre you even remotely serious?
Please read about prion knockout cows, specifically double prion knockout cows. Genetic engineers are working hard to protect society from the dangers of prion diseases like mad cow disease, not spread them.
www.businesswire.com...edit on 2-4-2012 by 1nfiniteLoop because: it to them
Large questions remain over the propriety, safety, ethics of creating cloned prionless cows, James Robl, chief scientific officer of Hematch of Connecticut, told the New Scientist in 2004 that the US company had only created the cell lines lacking the prion gene, and denied that cloned cows would be produced for food
He said that the aim of the work was to use BSE-free cows to produce pharmaceutical products such as human antibodies, but that these cows were unlikely to end up on the dinner plate. That turned out to be a smokescreen, as we point out, there is no guarantee that hazardous experimental cloned transgenic cows will not enter the human food chain.
The project raises the question of whether it is proper science to devote such Herculean efforts to creating prionless cows, as it would merely perpetuate an intensive, industrial animal husbandry regime that created BSE in the first place. Prionless cows are both transgenic and cloned, and hence subject to the potential hazards and also the questionable ethics of both the transgenic and the cloning processes, regardless of whether they are intended for our dinner plate or for producing pharmaceuticals.
Cloning creates massive deaths and suffering for failed fetuses and calves and also for the numerous surrogate dams required, and transgenesis in combination with cloning increases the number of cloning steps, and hence multiplies deaths and suffering. It is not clear whether the calves still carry antibiotic-resistance markers with loxP sites, the enhanced promoter from the SV40 virus, the Cre recombinase, or indeed, the diphtheria toxin A gene integrated at non-target sites in the genome. All of these dangerous genes could be subject to horizontal gene transfer and recombination, and in the process, trigger cancer (if transferred to human cells in the case of the strong viral promoter), and create and recreate viruses and bacteria that cause disease epidemics. Cre-recombinase is known to scramble genomes (see Box 1). In conclusion cloned transgenic animals should not be approved for commercial use, nor should public research funding go to support such projects. Cloned transgenic animals are far from safe on existing evidence, and certainly not ethical in terms of animal welfare.
Originally posted by Socrato
I can't believe Monsanto is still legal! Just the other day I heard they bought a GMO bee company and might make bees that would ONLY pollinate their own crops!
How can this possibly not be a crime against nature/humanity/whatever. The highest crime possible
Originally posted by UberL33t
First thing that came to my mind, was the line by Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park I believe it was...
Life will find a way
I think it stands to reason, it will indeed, with or without us!
Originally posted by 1nfiniteLoop
reply to post by BiggerPicture
Mutants which are resistant to insect or weed occur all the time, given the nature of random mutation this is a statistical given. More effective control measures against a particular pest only increase the selective pressures that select for this particular mutation within the population. This is the same principle behind the rising antibiotic resistance, once a rare trait but now a great medical concern.
Although you can blame Bt corn for increasing the selective pressures,( for which there are some measures in use to mitigate as much as possible these potential and foreseen consequences) resistance to Bt has developed decades before in Hawaii and Japan it's heavy use in fields. Thus, while organic food advocates might place the blame on the crop, the same adaptations by pests to survive invariably kills the majority of the unadapted population has been occurred in the past to their own pest control methods and will invariably occur multiple times again in the future.
This is the reason why farmers rotate pesticides. Because they've all known about it for decades, it's happened repeatedly throughout history. It is not in any way a unique phenomenon related to biotechnology.
Originally posted by LadyTwoCrowns
So if this is the case, WHY is Monsanto doing it at all? What's the alterior motive?
“And I looked, and behold, a pale horse and his name that sat on him was death, and Monsanto followed with him.”
Originally posted by Ex_CT2
Originally posted by Raelsatu
Isn't it about time we completely shut these monsters down & hold some accountable?? Study after study is proving Monsanto to be nothing but a disaster to our planet and its inhabitants..... so what would they have to do to be terminated? Maybe once half the planet is sterile? Even then they'll probably just pay off the "authorities", ignore the plight of humanity while eating their now-rare organic foods.
The greedy elite are like roaches that will never die off.
There's the exact problem: They have their tentacles in the government to the extent that they can ignore and/or neutralize the EPA. They can apparently even influence the judicial branch. Common sense from a few judges would have crushed them long ago, and yet they thrive like their damn invasive crops.
At some point money and power and influence won't be enough. I'm just hoping that time comes before it's too late....