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Originally posted by Ellie Sagan
Hmm this is a bit of synchronicity for me. For some reason I remembered hearing about the lost continent of Mu some years ago and decided to research it a bit more. Supposedly, it was in the Pacific Ocean, but lost somehow, kind of like the stories of Atlantis we hear. There is speculation (of course) about whether it was real or not. In a thread here on ATS, someone posted that it might have been the remnants of the Jomon culture that was found, not from Mu. I never heard of the Jomon until a couple days ago while researching Mu, and here is another mention of it. Neat when that happens.
The Jomon are older than your quote indicates, as they were making fired pottery in (IIRC) 14,000 BCE. However, Sumer was still the first "civilization" that we know of.
In terms of overall size, some of Cucuteni-Trypillian sites, such as Talianki (with a population of 15,000 and covering an area of some 450 hectares – 1100 acres) in the Uman district of Ukraine, are as large as (or perhaps even larger than) the more famous city-states of Sumer in the Fertile Crescent, and these Eastern European settlements predate the Sumerian cities by more than half of a millennium. The reason that academicians have not designated the gigantic settlements of Cucuteni-Trypillian culture as "cities", is due to the lack of conclusive evidence for internal social differentiation or specialization.[However, there is some debate among scholars whether these settlements ought to be labeled as proto-cities.