Japan's Jomon Older Than Sumerians

Originally posted by Ellie Sagan
Hmm this is a bit of synchronicity for me. For some reason I remembered hearing about the lost continent of Mu some years ago and decided to research it a bit more. Supposedly, it was in the Pacific Ocean, but lost somehow, kind of like the stories of Atlantis we hear. There is speculation (of course) about whether it was real or not. In a thread here on ATS, someone posted that it might have been the remnants of the Jomon culture that was found, not from Mu. I never heard of the Jomon until a couple days ago while researching Mu, and here is another mention of it. Neat when that happens.

The mu continent originate in the 19th century by an explorer named Le Plongeon and a mistranslation by him, then glorified by the fictitious writings of James Churchward. It more plausible that it is remenace of the Jomon culture.

The old Shakōki-dogū, lots of theories as to why the Jomon culture made them and placed them in burials, often broken - most go with some unknown ritual

The Jomon are older than your quote indicates, as they were making fired pottery in (IIRC) 14,000 BCE. However, Sumer was still the first "civilization" that we know of.

Harte
The Cucuteni-Trypillian culture of the Ukraine predates the middle Eastern cities, and is older than Sumer pretty substantially. The oldest urban areas are around the Black sea, and had a population of about 15,000 in one city. It always amazes me how these sites get ignored.

Its an interesting culture

However due to the way anthropologists classify what makes up a city it doesn't, as of yet, out rank Sumer

In terms of overall size, some of Cucuteni-Trypillian sites, such as Talianki (with a population of 15,000 and covering an area of some 450 hectares – 1100 acres) in the Uman district of Ukraine, are as large as (or perhaps even larger than) the more famous city-states of Sumer in the Fertile Crescent, and these Eastern European settlements predate the Sumerian cities by more than half of a millennium. The reason that academicians have not designated the gigantic settlements of Cucuteni-Trypillian culture as "cities", is due to the lack of conclusive evidence for internal social differentiation or specialization.[However, there is some debate among scholars whether these settlements ought to be labeled as proto-cities.

One look at their culture and settlements

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Yes, most people think the only racial group in Japan are Japanese. In fact, Japan is still home to it's original indigenous groups mostly residing on the islands in the Northern region. They are the Ainu.

www.ainu-museum.or.jp...

worldfocus.org...

www.unhcr.org...