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posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by rexusdiablos
Admit your request for censorship or admit that you're a liar.


I don't want censorship. I want something more fundamental. I want the people doing this to change to the point where censorship isn't necessary.




posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 07:54 AM
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Censorship is not the way to go. Maybe sticking to safer forums like Ufos or Metaphysics?



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by petrus4
I don't want censorship.


The very title of your thread is a direct request for self-censorship immortalized in plain English.


Originally posted by petrus4
I want the people doing this to change to the point where censorship isn't necessary.


Exactly. You want ATS members to self-censor their contributions so that the moderators don't have to. It's still censorship.

How do you expect us to respect your communications when you can't even stand by the title of your own thread?

What a convoluted waste of our time this thread has been. Had I known that you'd eventually back-peddle and delusionally deny your own writings I wouldn't have bothered.

Address my point on the title of the thread instead of evading it for a third time.

Admit your request for censorship instead of lying about it for a third time.
edit on 2/4/2012 by rexusdiablos because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 08:09 AM
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News is news........

You cant pick and choose what people will post up on here. So what if people post about sacrifices is Mexico? Its needed to get the flow of communication going. Open people up to some of the ghastly crap that's going on in the world and raise awareness.

You cant thought police here or any place else.






posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by JonathanNicholas
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Despite your claims that things like this happen all the time the last time Mexico saw anything even remotely similar to these La Santa Muerte ritual slayings were the narco-satanicos murders in the 1980's. That means it has been over thirty years since Mexico has seen anything like this. So this is certainly not something that happens all the time in Mexico. To them, this is a new threat. Ask any Mexican if that in itself doesn't qualify it as "news".


I agree with your post. However, I'd like to add that the "narco-satanicos" killings you're referring to occurred in the LATE 1980's, 20 years ago -- not over 30.



The La Santa Muerte slayings did not all happen on the same night, the first of the three victims was apparently killed in 2009, the second in 2010 and the latest earlier this month with one child still missing. That makes it an ongoing SERIAL crime. That means that if those arrested and charged with the crimes aren't the only ones responsible then both the people of Mexico and every tourist currently in Mexico or planning on going to Mexico may still be in danger.

And since the narco-satanicos murders of the 80's ended with 15 people dead I would say that the people of Mexico and the tourists planning on visiting them have a right to know what is going on. Wouldn't you? Oh right, you wouldn't....


Adolpho Constanzo (the narco-satanicos murderer you're referring to) killed at least 24 people. Some of these were tortured & killed as sacrifices to “feed” his Palo Mayombe nganga* (prenda or cauldron).

(Palo Mayombe [Congo] is a cult with very different roots from Santisima Muerte [Mayan]).

This is the thread that started this thread:

“Officials: 3 killed as human sacrifices in Mexico”
www.abovetopsecret.com...

* Nganga is a Bantu word that normally means “herbalist or spiritual healer” – but in the cult of Palo Mayombe it is the cauldron where the palos are kept.



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by rexusdiablos
Address my point on the title of the thread instead of evading it for a third time.

Admit your request for censorship instead of lying about it for a third time.
edit on 2/4/2012 by rexusdiablos because: (no reason given)


You're determined to force me into a situation where I look bad, one way or the other. That is your objective, here. So go ahead; think you have shamed me as much as you like, and let as many other people here think likewise, as you are able to influence.

I freely offer you what you are seeking.
edit on 2-4-2012 by petrus4 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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So OP claims he hates topics about brutalization and murder, so then he makes a topic about how much he hates said topics. Really? Talk about filth and dirt on ATS - this is at the top of the list. People have different interests than you. Seriously, get over it. Don't read the topics and go whine in the rants forum.



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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I agree, but its your choice to read or not read, what bothers you others thrive on.....................sadly.

Another sad fact is this media quote; If it bleeds, it leads................................what ever sells and sadly enough tripe like your example is what the public wants.........................telling, wouldn't you say?



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by petrus4

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I welcome the OP correcting me, but as I'm reading this it's simply a matter of being fed up and disgusted with the apparent competition to out-tabloid the National Enquirer and find that special little something of ugliness to make even the Faces of Death producers blush in discomfort.


Rabbit, my real issue is that I feel as though people like surrounding themselves with this sort of negativity because truthfully, it is consistent with their own internal condition; even though many of them also derive additional enjoyment from claiming superior morality, and that it isn't.

I don't think that most of the people who post this sort of material, do so with any kind of genuinely positive motivation. I think they do it because they want to be surrounded by that sort of filth themselves. People in this thread have said that the world is a cold, dark, ugly place; and my contention is that a lot of the people who post on this forum, actually really like it that way.

I don't; and that's what my issue is.


How can you say that, I made the post the set you over the deep end. You don't even know me and you say I have an internal condition becaues I created a thread about human sacrafices. Everyone knows that the world is going to s*** right now. American might enter another war soon, being a Marine I hope it doesnt come to that but if it does im ready.

You say I do it because I wont to be surrounded by filth, well you couldnt be more wrong. I stay away from things that people find deprived because stuff like that destroys your self esteem. Plus almost everything on this sight deals in one way or another about the cold, dark, ugly place our world is becoming. If people make a ghread about he Illuminati its never a joyful thread talking about good things its always about how the elite of the world are screwing the rest of us.

How many threads a month are made about a suppose planet being found that will mess with the Earth in the coming months. How many threads are made that try to connect all the earthquakes together.

It is true that you are asking for censorship when you ask the MODS to get involved. The thing is though no one is forcing you at gun point to read these threads. You can just pass over them and not get involved. Even if all you read is the name of the thread, you don't have to let it ruin your entire day.



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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Lets turn the tables a little here and see what a hypocrite you are, shall we? It seems your just as bloodthirsty and violent as the people you are complaining about here. This is from a recent post about the truck driver strike in england. Our illustrious OP decided he did not like the comments of a particular poster, and for that he should be put to death. Decide for yourselves.
www.abovetopsecret.com...


Originally posted by petrus4

Originally posted by DaTroof
reply to post by EvanB
 


Simple solution: Arrest truckers, move trucks.

Disruptive strikes will never gain my support, no matter the cause.


You only have that attitude, because you think you still have the luxury of being able to afford it.

I truly, sincerely look forward to a time when people like you begin being rounded up and put into concentration camps; and rest assured, that it is coming. Then when it finally happens, you might start to realise just how completely naive and ovine, to the point of utter delusion, you really are.

You might start to realise that the only thing that justifiers, and rationalisers, and collaborators, and appeasers, and those who insist on not rocking the boat, ultimately get, is death; and that is also the only thing you deserve.


Just to make sure we are understanding each other, im going to re-paste the comments of interest:

Originally posted by petrus4
I truly, sincerely look forward to a time when people like you begin being rounded up and put into concentration camps; and rest assured, that it is coming.

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Originally posted by petrus4
You might start to realise that the only thing that justifiers, and rationalisers, and collaborators, and appeasers, and those who insist on not rocking the boat, ultimately get, is death; and that is also the only thing you deserve.

So. This man simply disagreed with the truckers tactics. I do too. They are going to hurt innocent Brits who simply want to go about their daily lives, but wont due to fuel shortages and an increased cost of living because of said shortages.

But what do you want to do to him? Thats right, you want to round up those you disagree with and put them in concentration camps. As you said very bluntly, you truely and sincerely want these people to suffer.

You pretend to be "for the people" in your little rant, claiming that the government is out to get you with their taxation. Well ill take high taxes over your concentration camps anydays. You would make a truely despotic ruler similar to Hitler or Stalin. Hell, Pol Pot could take a page from your book.

Is this man guilty of murder? Rape? Fraud? No, he is guilty of having a differeing opinion then you. You truely, sincerely make me sick.
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posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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Ok man your replying to any post that has a different opinion then yours. Quit letting you're emotions get the better of you and just accept the site for what it is, an alternative news / conspiracy site.

Here maybe this website will more suit you're tastes www.hasbro.com...



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 11:49 AM
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[It seems some people create a thread ]then when it doesent go their way, then when they read another thread they complain and judge others because they do not want it on here etc.to the thread maker, [Is not most of ATS topics about bad things happening in the world anyway] im glad i joined up to ATS because it has opened my eyes to the reality of wot is going on in this world and things that would not allways be in ur face on the news .I like to voice my opinions and listens to others like minded or not .If i did not like wot i see or hear theres allways the log off option or another thread to view which in my view is the option we all have is it not.IT is peoples right to awaken themselfs to the world that we live in and discuss thier views PS I THOUGHT THIS WAS A CONSPIRACY SITE.



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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Stop reading the posts and stop telling others what they can and cant do!



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 01:29 PM
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Yawn. Don't read things if it upsets you this much. You must really get angry every day.



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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I find them off putting too



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by bittersylence3
Yawn. Don't read things if it upsets you this much. You must really get angry every day.


Angry is an understatment.

This OP wants to put people in concentration camps for disagreeing with him/her. Censorship is only the tip of the iceburg to what this dangerous person wants. Dont believe it? Scroll back one page and view my post.



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by petrus4

Originally posted by HangTheTraitors
Says who?

There are MANY members here who WANT to know whats going on.


How does it benefit you, in any way shape or form, to know that four people were offered as a human sacrifice in Mexico?

I will say it again; Google the definition of fear porn.

edit on 1-4-2012 by petrus4 because: (no reason given)


I could easily turn your stance around on you:

Why do you think it is ok to ignore what it going on in the world? Apathy solves nothing...



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by optimus primal
reply to post by TheBandit795
 


it has been my understanding that BTS was rolled into ats some time ago, with the new site redesign. making that a pretty moot point.


Yes, it was rolled into ATS, but it's still marked as BelowTopsecret off-topic, and doesn't appear in Conspiracy Discussions in the Recent Posts tab.



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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If ATS has such an audience for "most sick crimes you can find" and contributors posting such threads, THEN...

Why not just add a sub-forum for "sick crimes"? Otherwise, it looks like another reduction in the mission of ATS - toward censorship rather than exposure of what's going on in this world. Especially if war-crimes are the sort of crime that the OP is concerned about. Or is ATS now a govt propagana system pretending to be the opposite?

Yea, I'm annoyed at having tried to read a few threads that went 404 on me in the middle of trying to read them. Some may have had speculated criminal theories associated but that was part of the stuff that makes ya go hmmmm. so is this OP.



posted on Apr, 2 2012 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by nightbringr
But what do you want to do to him? Thats right, you want to round up those you disagree with and put them in concentration camps. As you said very bluntly, you truely and sincerely want these people to suffer.


I'm probably only going to dig myself into a deeper hole, here; but in the interests of honesty, I will respond to this.

I'm sure that like most of us, you have seen the film V for Vendetta. You probably also remember the seen in which Evey Hammond, Natalie Portman's character, was sent to a concentration camp, or what she thought was one.

She survived the experience; but said experience was also an extremely important catalyst, because it taught her to realise that her integrity was more important, than whether or not she remained alive.

That was my point, and yes, that is an experience which I think a number of the people who I see posting here, could greatly benefit from having in their own lives, because I think they badly need to learn the same lesson. If that makes me a hypocrite, mentally ill, or whatever else; then guilty as charged.





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