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Arizona law would criminalize being lewd or annoying on the Internet

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posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 10:46 AM
Arizona law would criminalize being lewd or annoying on the Internet

It seems Arizona has passed a legislative bill that may extend "telephone harassment"
to the internet !!!!

The law is awaiting the Governor's signature !!

By Muriel Kane
Friday, March 30, 2012 22:52 EDT
The Raw Story

The Arizona state legislature apparently finds it difficult to tell the difference between a telephone and the Internet and has passed a bill that would extend the definition of harassment originally devised for phone conversations to anything communicated or published online.

As summarized by the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund, “The bill is sweepingly broad, and would make it a crime to communicate via electronic means speech that is intended to ‘annoy,’ ‘offend,’ ‘harass’ or ‘terrify,’ as well as certain sexual speech. Because the bill is not limited to one-to-one communications, H.B. 2549 would apply to the Internet as a whole, thus criminalizing all manner of writing, cartoons, and other protected material the state finds offensive or annoying.”

The bill is currently awaiting Governor Jan Brewer’s signature, and the Media Coalition, which defends first amendment rights in the media, has sent her a letter outlining some of the problems with the legislation. ...

Internet Harassment in AZ ?

Would something like this affect ATS ??

Does the fact that ATS is based in Arizona make it a bigger potential problem ?

posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 10:50 AM
When will the Govt ever learn?



I like a lot of things that Arizona has been doing lately, but this is NOT one of them.

If you ask me, it wont go anywhere. It cant. Political suicide.

posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 10:51 AM
America's most fascist state continues to live up to it's reputation.

Looks like Sheriff Joe's concentration camp in the desert is about to get some new inmates.

posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 10:57 AM
This is probably not constitutional and a violation of the right to free speech. Arizona should just put all of themselves in jail now. I mean everyone in the state who supports this bill. They are all annoying me with this bill. Using their new law, I believe they should all be jailed and be denied access to any more computers. I find this bill to be harassing me and annoying me. Anyone who supports it is annoying as well.

posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 11:08 AM
reply to post by xuenchen

I read that article and I think I better go into hiding.

Seriously though, it doesn't sound like it will pass the way it is worded and, if it does, will be extremely hard to implement. It really doesn't make any sense. it's a state bill that wants to enforce what is written and seen anywhere in the world? Really?

If that's the case, I want the writer of that article arrested when the law comes into effect ( Is there any kind of statute of limitations here?) because the whole thing just annoyed the hell out me.

posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 11:13 AM
The problem with all of these laws is that the terms are so vague or undefined that they can be used to prosecute almost anyone for anything. What is profane? If I am a fundamentalist, I might consider it profane if you say that you are an atheist. I might find it lewd for someone to suggest sex outside of marriage, and I can have you charged even if that comment or statement was not intended for me. In other words, we purge the internet of anything that the most uptight of anyone who might be using it would be offended by.

Lets not forget the decades old quagmire of trying to define obscene in deciding what is pornography versus erotica.

As the world economy crashes and burns, the climate starts to spin out of control, along with the drug wars spilling over from Mexico into their state, I'm baffled why this is a priority for the Arizona government. As my grandmother used to say "looks like they are obsessed with re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic."
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posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 11:32 AM
And the conservatives aren't worried about losing their voice?

Some of the most vile, rude, annoying and absurd comments I see are from them!

Especially in the comments section of Yahoo News!

Just wait, you'll see....

posted on Mar, 31 2012 @ 11:34 AM
Worldwide internet becomes national internet becomes state internet.


posted on Apr, 1 2012 @ 02:02 AM
reply to post by xuenchen

I doubt it would be effective or enforceable before its struck down. If the encounter occurs in the State of Arizona, IE the person complaining and the "offender" are in Arizona then it could work. If either person is in another state then no, Arizona law would not apply, Federal law would.

Hell we have a hard enough time dealing with phone harrassment in my state in terms of who is responsible for jurisdiction. The agency where the call took place from or the person who recevied the call and wants to press charges.

What I can see this being used as is a back door effort to control online pornography. Either or I can see it being struck down as unconstitional. There is already precedence established by other State / Federal Courts that have struck down State / Local Laws that deal with being able to look at pornography on computers at public libraries. Which is to say the laws were passed to prevent it and were struck down.

As far as the question about ATS I would say yes, because its based out of Arizona, they could / would be affected by the law.

2009 - High Court strikes down anti-pornography laws
The topic has been on the Courts radar screen going back to 2004.

ETA - For those who want to see all the details the link below is to the Arizona Government website that tracks pending legislation.

HB2549 electronic; digital devices; stalking; threatening

If you check the site out keep in mind they show the origional bill language in addition to changes, proposed and adopted amendments etc etc etc. The other cool thing is at the bottom of the page I linked there is a section that contains all the video feed from the House dealing withthis bill. You can hear them discuss / debate etc the bill.
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posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 03:48 AM
reply to post by orionthehunter

Its a state law. Assuming you are referring to the US constitution, it was written to protect us from the federal government. I may be wrong, but I do not think the feds would have any jurisdiction here. Seems to me it would boil down to what power is granted to the state under the Arizona constitution.

posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 05:30 AM
Ahahaha, so I guess that means FB, Reddit, /b/, and most forums will be soon shut down...or all monitored.

Next step? Demand all private data...because after all, how can they enforce this law without having access to people's private data?

posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 05:35 AM
The whole state of Arizona should be included in the constitution free zone

posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 06:09 AM

Originally posted by muse7
The whole state of Arizona should be included in the constitution free zone


Can you explain for anyone who is not familiar ?

posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 06:25 AM
"Small government"-loving Republicans strike again. Why do so many still insist on believing what they say, while everything they actually do.

posted on Apr, 3 2012 @ 06:55 AM
If this was limited to spam type e-mails, I would be all over it.
People that require your e-mail addy so they can sell it are lewd and annoying me.

Suppress my free speech? Good freakin' luck w/ dat.

posted on Apr, 7 2012 @ 12:31 PM
Wait until the Good People of Arizona find out that 'criminalizing' something means having to pay more taxes to cover cop costs, court costs, and prison costs...

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