reply to post by rhinoceros
TextWhy is it that religious folk never extend this logic their precious God(s)? And no, things don't necessarily need creators. Particles and anti-particles spark into existence all the time, only to annihilate one another a brief moment later. I'm thinking with big bang something similar to this failed to happen properly, and thus Big Bang..
You say that things don't necessarily need creators. Can I ask you a question? Do these things, that you say are things, need a prior existence to spark themselves into existence? Forget the word creator. Do you have to have preexistence in order for something else to come forth and also exist? Now work backwards and tell me if there is a beginning to any of this existence which brings forth other existence. If you say it brought itself into existence then there had to be other existence from which it came. Once something does exist, then many other forms can come from that existence. I will buy into that but where did the original pattern come from and how did it get here?

